Cesc Fàbregas

[Nike 373]

I don't know what is wrong with a captain nearing 30, but Cahill is at least a good shout if we exlude Ivan and Luis then.

cahill wont be a starter longterm.

Even in catalonia, cesc at a younger age always exhibited fire and passion...

Thankfully, this isnt the national team bs where the sponsors picks captains...

If ake makes it, he would be a good candidate as well.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Yeah, even this weak he hinted in an interview that he would not make him captain. He said that he understands why he was captain at Arsenal but here at Chelsea we the belief that the captain needs to be someone who has been here for years and years.

That's not what the media is running with:

Cesc Fabregas could succeed John Terry as Chelsea captain, hints Jose Mourinho

Fabregas could be next Chelsea captain, hints Mourinho

Jose Mourinho prepared to appoint 'fantastic' Cesc Fabregas as Chelsea captain

It all depends on interpretation I guess. Hits, hits, hits.

But joking aside, Jose really didn't need to add, "‘But one thing is [the leader’s] brain needs to be connected with the manager, and his brain is connected to mine during matches." It only fuels speculation.

Tbh, I think it will be JT--->maybe Ivanovic for a short while (if he's still a starter by the time JT retires)-->Cesc.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Sentimentalism =/= morals. In case somebody doesn't know the difference.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

José was talking about making him the captain now. He's very clear about it when he says why he isn't the captain (instead of saying he wouldn't or he won't be). What Amels is talking - and that is the kind of sentimentalism a football club doesn't have - is that he'd never be a captain here because of his history against Chelsea, his past as a gooner and one that had trouble with us. If that mattered he wouldn't even play here. That's the BS that only exists for some fans. The criteria for being a Chelsea skipper is time played at the club and then leadership qualities. It has nothing to with his history against us. Cole was a reference in the team, I'm not sure if in some absences he was the captain and he played for Arsenal... Pre-Chelsea history isn't relevant because the club and the team are professional environments, not love puppies that base their actions on sentimentalism.

edit: Cahill isn't a shout imo. He's English, he's been here for some years. He doesn't have a leader bone in his body as far as I can say. It can't be only time playing for the club, they also have to be leaders. I don't see Cahill as a leader. He's too quiet and has a different kind of personality. At least that's my impression.

No, I can totally see him becoming captain in 2-3 years time. He's a born leader. But when I said Jose hinted that he wouldn't make him, I meant that he wouldn't make him the next captain, because the likelihood of JT still being a starter in 3 years is very low imho. Hence, we will most likely need a short-term captain after JT since I can't currently see a direct replacement for him.

Basically, exactly this:

Tbh, I think it will be JT--->maybe Ivanovic for a short while (if he's still a starter by the time JT retires)-->Cesc.

[Tomo 21,681]

Haven't been following Chelsea much lately so thanks for that information!

Jose's right in what he's saying IMO. As far as I'm concerned, giving the armband to a player who hasn't even played 3+ years at the club despite having good enough leaders in your squad already wouldn't be the right thing to do morally. In times where loyality in football/sports is getting more and more rare it speaks volumes to reward players who have earned their place in the locker room over a long period.

I disagree.

Desailly got the armband not long after arrival, they should give it to the best man for the job, not whos been here the longest.

[zolayes 14,489]

Cesc was crticised by someone for not defending Costa in a fight ... was said he wasn't a TRUE BLUE ,,well

he certainly waded in at the weekend.

On a serious not Cesc is by far the most suited to leadership of any of our current squad bar JT of course .

He has experience , intelligence and fire in his belly ,, Excellent English and Spanish . A guaranteed starter ,

For me he ticks all the boxes

[Barbara 15,149]

Sentimentalism =/= morals. In case somebody doesn't know the difference.

well, in the same interview Jose admitted Fabregas is a much better person than he thought. So there you go... he said he's a fantastic player and professional. I don't think there's anything wrong with his morals. He may have done some bad things in the past. He was young and he's a bit too hot blooded. I don't see what you possibly be referring to. Everyone makes mistakes, and let's not fool ourselves, our own captain - who I love and worship - has made more than a handful of things I wouldn't call the best morale out there.

[Amblève. 4,995]

I disagree.

Desailly got the armband not long after arrival, they should give it to the best man for the job, not whos been here the longest.

Read my first post. As long as Jose's at the helm it won't happen.

well, in the same interview Jose admitted Fabregas is a much better person than he thought. So there you go... he said he's a fantastic player and professional. I don't think there's anything wrong with his morals. He may have done some bad things in the past. He was young and he's a bit too hot blooded. I don't see what you possibly be referring to. Everyone makes mistakes, and let's not fool ourselves, our own captain - who I love and worship - has made more than a handful of things I wouldn't call the best morale out there.

That's not what I meant by "morals". I was talking about traits like loyality etc which Jose seems to value as important morals. Hence it's more likely he goes with Ivanovic or even Cesar before Fabregas as our next captain (hypothetically considering Jose's still our coach by the time Terry is no longer our captain) simply because they have deserved it over a longer period.

[Barbara 15,149]

Read my first post. As long as Jose's at the helm it won't happen.

That's not what I meant by "morals". I was talking about traits like loyality etc which Jose seems to value as important morals. Hence it's more likely he goes with Ivanovic or even Cesar before Fabregas as our next captain (hypothetically considering Jose's still our coach by the time Terry is no longer our captain) simply because they have deserved it over a longer period.

oh my bad then. The way you worded your first and then your second post I was under the impression he wouldn't ever be a captain here under Mourinho because of his questionable moral decisions in the past - especially against Chelsea.

I don't think he's going to be a captain straight away when JT leaves the first team. And tbh captaincy only still feels relevant for England these days. Everywhere else it doesn't seem to matter as much as it did in the past. I love JT as our captain, but I also feel after him, I won't care much about it.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

No way Fabregas will be the next captain after Terry.

[Viper22 2,418]

Never ever ever thought I'd even consider this man as our captain even 1 year ago. How times change eh? He's the best candidate for the job on leadership qualities and he's definitely shown his passionate willingness to fight for the club already.

I think he would be a great shout for our next captain, forget short term, Cesc to take over when JT leaves, as long as JT himself and Jose think he's up to the job. If they think he is then he is.

[Viper22 2,418]

Also, let's not forget just how much making him our captain would piss off arsenal fans. Pissing off gooners is always a good idea.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Never ever ever thought I'd even consider this man as our captain even 1 year ago. How times change eh? He's the best candidate for the job on leadership qualities and he's definitely shown his passionate willingness to fight for the club already.

I think he would be a great shout for our next captain, forget short term, Cesc to take over when JT leaves, as long as JT himself and Jose think he's up to the job. If they think he is then he is.

He's already the manager's favourite in just 4 months time. Goes to show how much of a character he is.

I think it will be a bold decision from Jose if he overlooks Cahill and give Cesc the armband when Terry decides to call it a day. I completely trust Jose to make the right decision, then.

[Fernando 6,375]

I'm in the middle about making him a captain if it where ever to come to that.

He's still a gooner at heart and that you can't forget.

[iseah100 5,612]

If we win the CL or PL then he should be our next capitan. Why not Costa?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

If we win the CL or PL then he should be our next capitan. Why not Costa?

Because he still can't speak a single word of English.

[iseah100 5,612]

Because he still can't speak a single word of English.

So!?

Only 2 of our starters native language is English.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

I don't believe he's a gooner at heart, tbh--for the same reasons many Arsenal fans don't believe that. He was Arsenal's Captain and they made him the player he is, so understandably, he's fond of them and will always say nice things about Arsenal, but I don't believe he's really a gooner at heart. A gooner at heart wouldn't leave Goonerland, no matter what. A gooner at heart would never join another London top club if he has other options, and Cesc admitted himself he had 3 other options only in England. A gooner at heart would not celebrate the goal he created against Arsenal.
If anything, he's a Barcelona fan at heart.
Cesc looks very committed to us and it's been only 4 months, so I don't really think it would be an issue by the time we'll have to choose the next captain.