test

Welcome to Talk Chelsea

Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to contribute to this site by submitting your own content or replying to existing content. You'll be able to customize your profile, receive reputation points as a reward for submitting content, while also communicating with other members via your own private inbox, plus much more! This message will be removed once you have signed in.

Special Juan

4. Cesc Fàbregas

Started by Special Juan,

5,497 posts in this topic
3 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

I never realy liked his play even in his first season when we won title and he banged those assists left and right, to me his overal play was just poor. Couldnt shileld the ball, did nothing in defence, always got dribbled past, jogged around instead of chase opponents,...the epitome were poor displays in CL. Then came last season and he was even worse much like rest of team.

But this season I must say, its first time I realy realy appreciate his contribution to team, despite not having as vital role. He plays more mature and has quicker responses, loses the ball less, but there were games when he was same old Cesc from 2014/15. Maybe he is still same old Cesc, with exception that he simply plays only against opponents that suit him and he can cover his weaknesses, but IMO he became better player under Conte.

In current role, he is crucial alternative for our team and must not be sold.

He is stil the same old Cesc except with more vigor now, couldn't do shit when his stamina runs out

The Skipper likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He's just a lot fitter this season, and Conte's helping him a lot with how to position himself effectively when we're defending, so he's not a liability to the system. He's got that hunger for the game he used to have when he was younger back. He's still the same Cesc, but like masimaru said up there, just has more vigor about him. 

Beigl likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I feel like Cesc is the only player we have that gives us real tactical flexibility.  The other subs and rotation players are kind of like-for-like.

I still maintain that he would be amazing in a "Pirlo role" as long as he's got 2 physical box to box midfielders next to him.

Can't sell him, he's crucial for us, IMO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah. He's the only player we have who can come on and change the game. And that is shocking for league winners. I don't think once this season we had a noticeable positive impact by bringing on Willian/Chalobah/Zouma.

Our central midfield options & lack of wingers is shocking, shocking, shocking. I think only the 4-2-3-1 has a higher need for plentiful wingers/midfielders. 
We need a BIG summer, and we've only had one, IMO, since before 2010 (and that would be when we brought in Costa, Fabregas, Luis & Drogba.) Otherwise, It's always 1 really good player followed by shocking ones. Like getting Hazard but then also getting Marko Marin , Oscar, and useless subs we've already seen the back of.
Or the shamobolic summer, IMO, where our biggest signings were Willian & Schurrle, followed by Atsu, Van Ginkel, and Eto'o. That just screams 'Tottenham's most frugle summer yet!'.
 

Look at 2015's 'in' players - Pedro, Marco Amelia, Michael Hector, Papy, Baba Rahman, Kenedy, Nathan, Danilo Pantic. So we signed 1 player we'd go on to give more than 4 appearances to. How fucking shambolic.

And this last summer? Our big players were Luiz & Kante. Good. That's solid. That's the minimum. .........Followed by Eduardo, Michy, 3 youth players, who've made a combined, what, 2 and a half starts for us?

Why is it that 80% of the players we've bought in the last 10 years, haven't played 10 games? Not the manager. Not the players. This is all the terrible planning of the terrible board who get terrible praise whenever they do the basics right. The lack of foresight was seen by all of us in the summer when they failed to get a single Conte target other than Alonso:blink:

You can bet it's not even crossed one single mind in the boardroom how we're going to replace Fabregas when needed. But do you think the boards at City, Barcelona, Munich, Juve, don't think how they're going to replace their players, even 4 years in advance? They do. We don't. Chelsea have become reactive in times where everyone else has become proactive.

DYC. likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 seasons at Arsenal = 1 FA Cup
3 seasons at Chelsea = 2 Premier League + 1 League Cup


Don't forget the Community Shield.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I feel like Cesc is the only player we have that gives us real tactical flexibility.  The other subs and rotation players are kind of like-for-like.

I still maintain that he would be amazing in a "Pirlo role" as long as he's got 2 physical box to box midfielders next to him.

Can't sell him, he's crucial for us, IMO.

It is more than tactical flexibility, he is apart from hazard is our only creator. If we sell him, we need to sign another world class creator, i am not sure there is anyone that is available 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And i'd make Fabregas vice captain. Super important to keep around without Terry here. He has a legendary history in the league that can only bolster those around him with confidence.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So what do you guys think, does he start the final against Arsenal? 

 

I think he deserves to but I cant see who's getting dropped.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, NiclasCFC said:

So what do you guys think, does he start the final against Arsenal? 

 

I think he deserves to but I cant see who's getting dropped.

Final XI likely to be -> Courtois - Azpi/Luiz/Cahill - Moses/Kante/Matic/Alonso - Hazard/Costa/Pedro

communicate likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, NiclasCFC said:

So what do you guys think, does he start the final against Arsenal? 

 

I think he deserves to but I cant see who's getting dropped.

He'll play either way. First guy you call on is Cesc. I hope he embraces this role - his time on the pitch since January hasn't been too bad. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
We lost that didn't we?


Talking about his time at Arsenal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 5/16/2017 at 7:24 AM, NiclasCFC said:

So what do you guys think, does he start the final against Arsenal? 

 

I think he deserves to but I cant see who's getting dropped.

I personally prefer Conte to play fab over Pedro and play a semi 352 but we all know the best way to play against Arsenal is to hit them on the counter, hence I think it is going to be our usual 343 lineup. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wonder whether Fabregas is secretly pleased that Wenger didn't take up the option to buy him back 3 years ago. Has since won 2 league titles in 3 years with us after 0 in 8 years with Arsenal.

kellzfresh and Johnnyeye like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.