test

Welcome to Talk Chelsea

Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to contribute to this site by submitting your own content or replying to existing content. You'll be able to customize your profile, receive reputation points as a reward for submitting content, while also communicating with other members via your own private inbox, plus much more! This message will be removed once you have signed in.

The only place to be

The Board

Started by The only place to be,

1,078 posts in this topic
1 minute ago, the wes said:

it's a joke what clubs pay agents 

I know much about this guy Fabio Paratici tho Conte worked under him when he was at Juventus

Might be a nice chap then.

We keep getting 'linked' with these guys but I wonder if they think it would just be too much hassle for them? Roman SEEMS to surround himself with YES men (and woman)who will jump when asked, I would like us to have a real go getter who will fight alongside whatever manager we have and give him support.

I always thought Emenalo was envious of our managers and wanted to have the spotlight on him.

bigbluewillie and the wes like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I can see us get much money for cahill pedro fabregas on sales 🤔🤔 maybe we will get good money with selling Courtois kenedy and Van Ginkel 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"Chelsea have agreed a £50m deal for sleeve sponsoring with Hyundai." says the Times.

Unionjack likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The site mighr have alot f pompous prick on it but have to admit this makes alot of common sense

It’s time to exercise patience, or stop calling for a legacy at Chelsea

A divided fanbase over Antonio Conte shows we don’t have the tolerance for construction of an empire

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2018/5/12/17330366/its-time-to-exercise-patience-or-stop-calling-for-a-legacy-at-chelsea

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 12/05/2018 at 2:54 AM, 11Drogba said:

"Chelsea have agreed a £50m deal for sleeve sponsoring with Hyundai." says the Times.

If that's true great work from Chris Townsend With no CL football next season we are going need all the sponsor money we got get our hands on 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

pixel?event_kind=INVENTORY_PASSBACK_PUBLISHER&attempt=96c19ce4beb90a1ce6fab2446eb03983pixel?event_kind=INVENTORY_PASSBACK&attempt=96c19ce4beb90a1ce6fab2446eb03983pixel?event_kind=AVAIL&attempt=96c19ce4beb90a1ce6fab2446eb03983pixel?event_kind=PLACEMENT_MATCH_BROWSER&attempt=96c19ce4beb90a1ce6fab2446eb03983pixel?event_kind=PLACEMENT_MATCH_BROWSER&attempt=446abd15217ef8ee803fe2b31cc43134

The fatal flaw preventing Chelsea from being London's one true super club - and it's not Conte

Under Roman Abramovich, Chelsea have the potential - so what's stopping them?

 
By
Joe Tweeds
NEW FOOTBALL TRANSFER RULES FOR SUMMER 2018
 
 
Get Chelsea updates directly to your inbox
+ Subscribe

As the final whistle blew at Old Trafford in February, Antonio Conte looked resigned to facing more uncomfortable questions about his Chelsea future.

Gone is the fire in the belly that sent the club to the Premier League title in 2017. Instead, flames are now licking around a bridge that seems ready to be burned between the Italian and his employers and players. He spent months telling the squad they were going to struggle for a top four position and access to the Champions League, all the while questioning whether they are good enough to wear the shirt.

In years gone by the strength of character within the Chelsea squad enabled the dressing room to feed off the chaos and instability that so often surrounded it. Managers didn't last long enough for true transitional periods. However, the strength of character and leaders that once galvanised the team in times of adversity has long since departed.

 
GettyImages-143909900.jpg
Didier Drogba, John Terry and Frank Lampard gave Chelsea a formidable nucleus of leaders able to weather any storm. (Image: IAN KINGTON/AFP/GettyImages)

Despite winning two Premier League titles in their last three seasons - as well as the FA Cup this year - the club felt strangely directionless this year. It is undeniable that they have not built upon their success. Without delving too much into the manager versus board dynamic, it is evident that things are not harmonious.

Chelsea’s penchant for signing and developing talent (~70% of signings in the last 5-years have been 25 or under) is patently at odds with Conte’s preference for experienced players, and that's before touching upon where the academy and its production line fit into his plans.

At one-time, Chelsea were able to field a team comprising almost entirely of international captains. The lack of overall strategy did not matter to a side that had the big personalities to overcome almost any crisis . Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about the current squad.

 
 
READ MORE

The short-term reliance on player trading to generate transfer funds has become problematic. When you need to sell quality players there is an immense amount of pressure to get the subsequent acquisitions correct.

 

Can Chelsea honestly say that their last twenty-five purchases have added significant quality to the first team? At the end of the January transfer window, Chelsea had spent somewhere in the region of £300million. The only improvement to the first team has come from the return of loanee.

While Conte continues to pretend like he has no input in transfers, and Chelsea seemingly obsessed with suffixing every transfer deal with claims that their targets present good value in the current market, it is difficult to recognise any long-term strategy to their dealings.

 
Antonio-Conte.jpg
Antonio Conte looks on in dismay as Chelsea lose to Watford (Photo Glyn Kirk/AFP/Getty Images)

There are arguments to be made that the underlying rationale for decisions has swung too far towards the commercial spectrum. Value for money and the requirement for a good deal seem to supersede the need to sign objectively good players.

When you see reports linking Chelsea to Andy Carroll and Peter Crouch, someone needs to have a sensible word with all concerned. Chelsea need someone credible at the board level to provide a viewpoint that is only concerned with delivering success on the pitch.

This premise should be the single most important and overarching concept at any football club, and taking all of the above into consideration, the need for a strong and capable director of football is a must.

READ MORE

Chelsea need someone who can provide a view on footballing matters and shape conversations at the top. Within the corporate structures of a modern club, it is more important that ever to find people who will push and defend the interests of the sporting side of the business.

In the absence of having a senior figure charged with pursuing that agenda, sometimes in competition with the other concerns of the board, the task of formulating a vision of how to achieve and maintain on-the-pitch excellence is left to executives with other priorities.

All around Europe, specialists who excel as the go-betweens to connect the boardroom with the dressing room are gaining the sort of public praise and recognition previously reserved for manager.

People like Ralf Rangnick (RB Leipzig), Monchi (Roma), Michael Zorc (Borussia Dortmund) and Luis Campos (Lille, previously Monaco) have all had significant impacts across a variety of clubs and would likely do well at Chelsea too.

 
GettyImages-844902790.jpg
Michael Zorc oversees recruitment, managerial appointments, the academy and all footballer matters at Dortmund. (Image: Alexandre Simoes/Borussia Dortmund/Getty Images)

The idea of targeting a world class operator is appealing. However, Chelsea could look a little closer to home and find people more than capable of providing the right level of input to the board.

There needs to be a common pursuit of a 'Chelsea identity', and this is something an ex-Chelsea candidate could provide.

Yet one of the club's biggest issues is their clandestine approach to outlining the roles and responsibilities of those running the club. In this case it should be very clear what is expected from a technical director.

Primarily, they should develop and safeguard the philosophy of the football club: looking after the academy right through to the first team. The key question they should be asking of any action they take is a simple one: "does this improve the on-pitch success of the football club?"

READ MORE

In terms of player acquisitions, they should work in tandem with the scouting department to find positions of want or need as outlined by the head coach, working to set parameters that underpin the philosophical direction of the club. Sign players aged 23 or under with extremely high potential, for example, or established stars only.

Crucially, all the relevant information is presented to the head coach and he then takes a decision on which player he would like. There should not be a situation where the manager is claiming (truthfully or otherwise) that he has had no input on transfers. You cannot give a coach a player they have no interest in working with.

This requires Chelsea to ensure that their head coach is on board with their strategic direction. Want to go younger and develop talent? Do not hire a head coach who only wants to deal with ready-made stars and a director of football should also be involved in finding the right man for the job.

 
GettyImages-538607358.jpg
Marina Granovskaia currently heads up transfers and other matters but she is Chelsea's answer to Ed Woodward, not a director of football. (Image: ADRIAN DENNIS/AFP/Getty Images)

Hiring a former Chelsea player does have a few immediate drawbacks, of course. They do not bring with them an existing scouting network or have previous experience of a similar role in football.

At first, it would be up to them to act as a quality checker and sounding board for those looking after the club. They do not need to be a super scout themselves to sit in this role as the role itself should go way beyond scouting.

Zinedine Zidane was a big hit in this position for Real Madrid prior to moving into coaching. It was his influence that saw the likes of Raphael Varane and Isco come to the club, unwittingly laying the foundations for his own success as a manager.

READ MORE

Manchester City are currently in the running for four trophies and top of the Premier League thanks in part to the presence of former Barcelona winger Txiki Begiristain in the chair as their own director of football.

Pep Guardiola's critics are right to point out how much money he has spent to get ahead this season but unlike their rivals Manchester United, City are clearly throwing money at a plan, not just big names to satisfy the marketing department.

That's what Chelsea need: someone who can set the club in a direction that operates on a level above the managerial turnover in the dugout, and isn't reliant on having a generational mix of self-starters in the dressing room.

 
Roman-Abramovich.jpg
Roman Abramovich after Chelsea won the title last season (Photo by Clive Rose/Getty Images)

Since 2005, the Blues have won every single trophy available to them, including five out of the last 12 Premier League titles, but they have not only failed as defending champions in their last three opportunities to stay at the top.

In their previous two attempts they suffered a total collapse, or come close to it. As successful as the Roman Abramovich model may have been over the last decade or so, it is unsustainable - in the short-term and the long - without a more permanent plan to fall back on.

With the right director of football in place, focused on high performance and not just shuffling players around Europe to produce a profit from the loan system, Chelsea could finally become the dominant, dynastic force their isolated title wins have always hinted at.

READ MORE

 

BlueSunshine and Unionjack like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, DDA said:

pixel?event_kind=INVENTORY_PASSBACK_PUBLISHER&attempt=96c19ce4beb90a1ce6fab2446eb03983pixel?event_kind=INVENTORY_PASSBACK&attempt=96c19ce4beb90a1ce6fab2446eb03983pixel?event_kind=AVAIL&attempt=96c19ce4beb90a1ce6fab2446eb03983pixel?event_kind=PLACEMENT_MATCH_BROWSER&attempt=96c19ce4beb90a1ce6fab2446eb03983pixel?event_kind=PLACEMENT_MATCH_BROWSER&attempt=446abd15217ef8ee803fe2b31cc43134

The fatal flaw preventing Chelsea from being London's one true super club - and it's not Conte

Under Roman Abramovich, Chelsea have the potential - so what's stopping them?

 
By
Joe Tweeds
NEW FOOTBALL TRANSFER RULES FOR SUMMER 2018
 
 
Get Chelsea updates directly to your inbox
+ Subscribe

As the final whistle blew at Old Trafford in February, Antonio Conte looked resigned to facing more uncomfortable questions about his Chelsea future.

Gone is the fire in the belly that sent the club to the Premier League title in 2017. Instead, flames are now licking around a bridge that seems ready to be burned between the Italian and his employers and players. He spent months telling the squad they were going to struggle for a top four position and access to the Champions League, all the while questioning whether they are good enough to wear the shirt.

In years gone by the strength of character within the Chelsea squad enabled the dressing room to feed off the chaos and instability that so often surrounded it. Managers didn't last long enough for true transitional periods. However, the strength of character and leaders that once galvanised the team in times of adversity has long since departed.

 
GettyImages-143909900.jpg
Didier Drogba, John Terry and Frank Lampard gave Chelsea a formidable nucleus of leaders able to weather any storm. (Image: IAN KINGTON/AFP/GettyImages)

Despite winning two Premier League titles in their last three seasons - as well as the FA Cup this year - the club felt strangely directionless this year. It is undeniable that they have not built upon their success. Without delving too much into the manager versus board dynamic, it is evident that things are not harmonious.

Chelsea’s penchant for signing and developing talent (~70% of signings in the last 5-years have been 25 or under) is patently at odds with Conte’s preference for experienced players, and that's before touching upon where the academy and its production line fit into his plans.

At one-time, Chelsea were able to field a team comprising almost entirely of international captains. The lack of overall strategy did not matter to a side that had the big personalities to overcome almost any crisis . Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about the current squad.

 
 
READ MORE

The short-term reliance on player trading to generate transfer funds has become problematic. When you need to sell quality players there is an immense amount of pressure to get the subsequent acquisitions correct.

 

Can Chelsea honestly say that their last twenty-five purchases have added significant quality to the first team? At the end of the January transfer window, Chelsea had spent somewhere in the region of £300million. The only improvement to the first team has come from the return of loanee.

While Conte continues to pretend like he has no input in transfers, and Chelsea seemingly obsessed with suffixing every transfer deal with claims that their targets present good value in the current market, it is difficult to recognise any long-term strategy to their dealings.

 
Antonio-Conte.jpg
Antonio Conte looks on in dismay as Chelsea lose to Watford (Photo Glyn Kirk/AFP/Getty Images)

There are arguments to be made that the underlying rationale for decisions has swung too far towards the commercial spectrum. Value for money and the requirement for a good deal seem to supersede the need to sign objectively good players.

When you see reports linking Chelsea to Andy Carroll and Peter Crouch, someone needs to have a sensible word with all concerned. Chelsea need someone credible at the board level to provide a viewpoint that is only concerned with delivering success on the pitch.

This premise should be the single most important and overarching concept at any football club, and taking all of the above into consideration, the need for a strong and capable director of football is a must.

READ MORE

Chelsea need someone who can provide a view on footballing matters and shape conversations at the top. Within the corporate structures of a modern club, it is more important that ever to find people who will push and defend the interests of the sporting side of the business.

In the absence of having a senior figure charged with pursuing that agenda, sometimes in competition with the other concerns of the board, the task of formulating a vision of how to achieve and maintain on-the-pitch excellence is left to executives with other priorities.

All around Europe, specialists who excel as the go-betweens to connect the boardroom with the dressing room are gaining the sort of public praise and recognition previously reserved for manager.

People like Ralf Rangnick (RB Leipzig), Monchi (Roma), Michael Zorc (Borussia Dortmund) and Luis Campos (Lille, previously Monaco) have all had significant impacts across a variety of clubs and would likely do well at Chelsea too.

 
GettyImages-844902790.jpg
Michael Zorc oversees recruitment, managerial appointments, the academy and all footballer matters at Dortmund. (Image: Alexandre Simoes/Borussia Dortmund/Getty Images)

The idea of targeting a world class operator is appealing. However, Chelsea could look a little closer to home and find people more than capable of providing the right level of input to the board.

There needs to be a common pursuit of a 'Chelsea identity', and this is something an ex-Chelsea candidate could provide.

Yet one of the club's biggest issues is their clandestine approach to outlining the roles and responsibilities of those running the club. In this case it should be very clear what is expected from a technical director.

Primarily, they should develop and safeguard the philosophy of the football club: looking after the academy right through to the first team. The key question they should be asking of any action they take is a simple one: "does this improve the on-pitch success of the football club?"

READ MORE

In terms of player acquisitions, they should work in tandem with the scouting department to find positions of want or need as outlined by the head coach, working to set parameters that underpin the philosophical direction of the club. Sign players aged 23 or under with extremely high potential, for example, or established stars only.

Crucially, all the relevant information is presented to the head coach and he then takes a decision on which player he would like. There should not be a situation where the manager is claiming (truthfully or otherwise) that he has had no input on transfers. You cannot give a coach a player they have no interest in working with.

This requires Chelsea to ensure that their head coach is on board with their strategic direction. Want to go younger and develop talent? Do not hire a head coach who only wants to deal with ready-made stars and a director of football should also be involved in finding the right man for the job.

 
GettyImages-538607358.jpg
Marina Granovskaia currently heads up transfers and other matters but she is Chelsea's answer to Ed Woodward, not a director of football. (Image: ADRIAN DENNIS/AFP/Getty Images)

Hiring a former Chelsea player does have a few immediate drawbacks, of course. They do not bring with them an existing scouting network or have previous experience of a similar role in football.

At first, it would be up to them to act as a quality checker and sounding board for those looking after the club. They do not need to be a super scout themselves to sit in this role as the role itself should go way beyond scouting.

Zinedine Zidane was a big hit in this position for Real Madrid prior to moving into coaching. It was his influence that saw the likes of Raphael Varane and Isco come to the club, unwittingly laying the foundations for his own success as a manager.

READ MORE

Manchester City are currently in the running for four trophies and top of the Premier League thanks in part to the presence of former Barcelona winger Txiki Begiristain in the chair as their own director of football.

Pep Guardiola's critics are right to point out how much money he has spent to get ahead this season but unlike their rivals Manchester United, City are clearly throwing money at a plan, not just big names to satisfy the marketing department.

That's what Chelsea need: someone who can set the club in a direction that operates on a level above the managerial turnover in the dugout, and isn't reliant on having a generational mix of self-starters in the dressing room.

 
Roman-Abramovich.jpg
Roman Abramovich after Chelsea won the title last season (Photo by Clive Rose/Getty Images)

Since 2005, the Blues have won every single trophy available to them, including five out of the last 12 Premier League titles, but they have not only failed as defending champions in their last three opportunities to stay at the top.

In their previous two attempts they suffered a total collapse, or come close to it. As successful as the Roman Abramovich model may have been over the last decade or so, it is unsustainable - in the short-term and the long - without a more permanent plan to fall back on.

With the right director of football in place, focused on high performance and not just shuffling players around Europe to produce a profit from the loan system, Chelsea could finally become the dominant, dynastic force their isolated title wins have always hinted at.

READ MORE

 

Its all true and I dont understand what Roman wants from chelsea. Cant only be silverware.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Get a technical director or sporting or whatever you want to call it.  This club is so fucked right now.  Less organized than a Sunday league side.  

Unionjack and zekinjo like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

34532924_1730836396985878_3375001707971870720_n.jpg

As if he was going to get picked had he stayed with us. What a stupid comment. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Jason said:

As if he was going to get picked had he stayed with us. What a stupid comment. 

That's kind of what they are getting at Jason. Maybe we should play the likes of RCL instead of buying deadwood who can't even get into their National teams. If RLC had stayed and played with us he woukd have been picked. 

11Drogba likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, DDA said:

That's kind of what they are getting at Jason. Maybe we should play the likes of RCL instead of buying deadwood who can't even get into their National teams. If RLC had stayed and played with us he woukd have been picked. 

Conte never fancied playing Drinkwater or any of the youth players - apart from Christensen. What makes you think he would have played Loftus-Cheek if he had stayed?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Conte never fancied playing Drinkwater or any of the youth players - apart from Christensen. What makes you think he would have played Loftus-Cheek if he had stayed?

I don't think he would have at all but whoever wrotr that statement was implying he should have.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, DDA said:

I don't think he would have at all but whoever wrotr that statement was implying he should have.

We all can say 'Player X, Y, Z' should have played but we all know reality doesn't work that way, not with Conte. 

And by the way, Sane played well for Man City last season and yet didn't get selected for Germany.

Unionjack likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
57 minutes ago, Jason said:

We all can say 'Player X, Y, Z' should have played but we all know reality doesn't work that way, not with Conte. 

And by the way, Sane played well for Man City last season and yet didn't get selected for Germany.

I totally agree with what you are saying mate, I was merely pointing out what the original post had implied, which that RLC was picked for England where Morata, Bakayoko and Drinkwater were not. So maybe we should start playing the likes of RLC first before going out spending a shit load of cash on players who were not picked. 

In regards to Sane, well....lunacy!

manpe and Unionjack like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 6/5/2018 at 7:12 PM, DDA said:

I totally agree with what you are saying mate, I was merely pointing out what the original post had implied, which that RLC was picked for England where Morata, Bakayoko and Drinkwater were not. So maybe we should start playing the likes of RLC first before going out spending a shit load of cash on players who were not picked. 

In regards to Sane, well....lunacy!

And Ive only just read that la Blanc wants to keep Morata over Martial and  Bailey!! But being a yesman you can imagine that Roman will love him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.