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YO! This is major fucking news. Hollywood FC we outchea, What the fuck is happening behind the scenes at Chelsea? Did Roman actually back a manager over his stooges? What was the tipping point? 

Chelsea Twitter is a madness right now. 

 

Thoughts @Styles ???

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6 minutes ago, LAM09 said:
19 minutes ago, Tomo said:
The whole hatred of him was truly bizarre, all because he replaced Ray Wilkins as assistant manager.

Signings like Papy & Hector are the reason people disliked him.

Can never prove it but i am almost certain that was down to Jose insisting Pogba and Stones or bust, which led to us backing him in that and then panicking when we realised they weren't coming. Compared to under Conte where we have made positive deadline day deals, it's not a coincidence.

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Nevermind disliking *him* - i didn't. My issue was, having a yes-man with 0 experience in his position, outlasting brilliant managers and brilliant players. Just hovering like an under-qualified ghost, picking up credit here and there that deserves to go to our scouts. He offered nothing and less still than anyone else in his position at a top club, I have no doubt about it. And that's enough reason to have angst and aggression towards his sector of the club, of which he was the accountable head. Beyond that, it's reasonable to put 2 + 2 together and deduce that he's had big says in big moments for us, big negative moments. But that's another discussion which honestly, none of us want to have again.

Ultimately this all goes back to Roman though, who appointed him, and allowed shambles to go on this long (and perhaps even longer if it's Emenalo's decision to walk.)

Point is, if you really love your football club, you don't want it run by headless chickens. He was a headless chicken. And Marina is the next one, no doubt about it.
Who knows - maybe Roman's ready to take a back seat to an extent, and bring in a real footballing board. 

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Just now, Tomo said:

Can never prove it but i am almost certain that was down to Jose insisting Pogba and Stones or bust, which led to us backing him in that and then panicking when we realised they weren't coming. Compared to under Conte where we have made positive deadline deals, it's not a coincidence.

If he's responsible for Papy and Hector, then he also had something to do with signing the likes of Morata, Costa, Fabregas, Kante? No? Ok. I am wondering who the next scapegoat for everything that goes wrong will be.

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Can never prove it but i am almost certain that was down to Jose insisting Pogba and Stones or bust, which led to us backing him in that and then panicking when we realised they weren't coming. Compared to under Conte where we have made positive deadline deals, it's not a coincidence.
There have been plenty of signings which raised eyebrows for the wrong reasons. It obviously doesn't all come down to him but a large part of these strange transfers seem to have his rubber-stamp.
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2 minutes ago, LAM09 said:
5 minutes ago, Tomo said:
Can never prove it but i am almost certain that was down to Jose insisting Pogba and Stones or bust, which led to us backing him in that and then panicking when we realised they weren't coming. Compared to under Conte where we have made positive deadline deals, it's not a coincidence.

There have been plenty of signings which raised eyebrows for the wrong reasons. It obviously doesn't all come down to him but a large part of these strange transfers seem to have his rubber-stamp.

Over the past 7 or so years, we've made more questionable signings than good signings. And the only constant at the club regarding signings throughout that time has been Emenalo. Need anything more be said? Would any club envy us for having him? Maybe an npower Championship side :lol:

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I will thank him for signing hazard alone..Tbf he is not that bad in identifying talented players...Apparently he had offer from As Monaco... Wish him good luck

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/michael-emenalo-resigns-chelsea-latest-news-antonio-conte-roman-abramovich-a8040276.html

Monaco are a club that have been looking to solidify their place among France's elite and as a perennial Champions League team. The sharp increase in Ligue 1 television revenue has allowed them to further invest in a club that raked in enormous transfer income last summer. 

Emenalo is one of a number of candidates that the principality club are looking at to strengthen and oversee their sporting infrastructure and that includes scouting and identifying talented youth players and channeling them into the first-team. 

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9 minutes ago, Miki-Liki said:

If he's responsible for Papy and Hector, then he also had something to do with signing the likes of Morata, Costa, Fabregas, Kante? No? Ok. I am wondering who the next scapegoat for everything that goes wrong will be.

Whatever your opinion, just don't call the next one a 'scapegoat' if we've already been moaning about them for over 2 years :cig:It's a fallacy that we just pick new players and staff to target after another leaves. We don't move on from Mikel to Cahill - we wanted them both gone at the same time. Same for Emenalo and Marina. No scapegoats here.

And to think Emenalo signed Hazard, and not our bags of money, our dominance, our position in European football, our managerial history, our scout (one of the best if not the best to ever grace the game)...now that's crazy. As if Emenalo did anything to secure these signings which couldn't be done by anyone standing in his place. You really think it's Emenalo that was the convincer, the part that sealed the deal for these players? He was basically a paperwork-pusher when it came to acquiring our best players. We'd have had as much success by just sending Terry to meet these players we signed. So he can't take any credit, at all, for our great signings. They were not identified by him. 

Now, our terrible signings, like Papy, Miazga etc? None of our managers targeted them. So, who? This shouldn't need to be explained. Him not being instrumental to our successful signings, does not mean he was not instrumental with our bad signings. 

 

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Interesting points in matt law's article

The move may be viewed in some quarters as a victory for Conte, but Emenalo has remained supportive of the Italian who he helped to appoint last year.

Chelsea suffered a frustrating summer transfer window, which caused tension between Conte, Emenalo and director Marina Granovskaia.

Sources have suggested that Emenalo does not wish to engage in a three-way power battle with Conte and Granovskaia who are known not to see eye to eye.

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29 minutes ago, Leif said:

No coincidence that Conte ignored him after our win. Maybe Roman grew some balls and realised, he really was a problem, for every manager.

Can anyone picture any of our ex-coaches having anything positive to say about him?

We don't really know anything about the situation or his job entirely, so to speculate he is the problem is a bit far fetched. 

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3 minutes ago, FabHazard said:

Sources have suggested that Emenalo does not wish to engage in a three-way power battle with Conte and Granovskaia who are known not to see eye to eye.

Yet, he was perfectly happy to when past managers would bend over and take it in the end. Just not happy to play that game when his victim can overpower him.

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1 minute ago, It's too big said:

We don't really know anything about the situation or his job entirely, so to speculate he is the problem is a bit far fetched. 

He was part of the problem. There are only so many people at Chelsea, and we can name them one by one, and conclude that 99% of them do brilliant jobs. We end up being left with simply 'the board' as we call them. Nobody's calling him the problem anyway, everyone's acknowledging both Roman and Marina in this.

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10 minutes ago, FabHazard said:

I will thank him for signing hazard alone..Tbf he is not that bad in identifying talented players...Apparently he had offer from As Monaco... Wish him good luck

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/michael-emenalo-resigns-chelsea-latest-news-antonio-conte-roman-abramovich-a8040276.html

Monaco are a club that have been looking to solidify their place among France's elite and as a perennial Champions League team. The sharp increase in Ligue 1 television revenue has allowed them to further invest in a club that raked in enormous transfer income last summer. 

Emenalo is one of a number of candidates that the principality club are looking at to strengthen and oversee their sporting infrastructure and that includes scouting and identifying talented youth players and channeling them into the first-team. 

But he isn't a scout, so does he identify talent? We don't know what exactly he does. Maybe he has last say on talent coming? Plenty of clubs were looking at Hazard along with us, but because we won the CL he chose us (apparently) so not really anything special by Emenalo in that situation. 

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Expecting Marinas' resigning too.

First time after a lot of years we are witnessing managers' power!

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Emenalo has always had contacts with certain agents, agents close specifically to Papy, as one example I can remember explicitly. 

With the amount of managers we go through, we had long periods where there were no managers to make signing-related decisions for us; we had interim managers, or brand new managers who weren't allowed to hammer home their own philosophy. Throughout all of those shaky periods, Emenalo has been chief of signings in one way or another. His role has been very fluid so it's hard to define. A jack of all trades, a master of none.

Anyway, I believe our very best signings, were often identified eventually by some of our 'new' managers, who'd clearly been interested in those players while at prior clubs. Specifically AvB comes to mind there, and then Jose. And then Conte too, who hasn't made a bad signing (and regardless what you think of Baka, everything points to the idea that Emenalo went for him. I mean, jumping on a player after 1 season of being in the papers - it's something unlike Conte, but very much like Emenalo, considering it took into account 0 footballing knowledge, and more of a marketing-related mindset. 'If a player's hyped, he must be good!!!!!' Baka's certainly not a Conte player, neither is Drinkwater his desired quality, and odd signings like these are why any potential power-struggle needed crushed, violently, far sooner than now. And, if a DoF is going to have a say in our signings, like most clubs allow now, have someone with experience at other top clubs in that role at least) 

As for the Belgians, that's all Piet. Even he himself has said he identified them in his book. I mean he's the guy who found Ronaldo and Romario - do people think he just sits here and isn't a driving force behind our brilliant Belgian acquisitions? 

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