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Kurt Zouma

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Move to Palace would be interesting. Frank de Boer is known for having an emphasis on possession and playing out frm the back, I think that would aid his development greatly, de Boer also has used a back 3 at Ajax beforehand but not as much as 4-3-3 but if he can get Kurt on loan there and bring that technical side of his game as well as his composure to another level it would be a good move because I honestly think he will struggle for games next season if he doesn't go anywhere.

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an interesting predicament: we want to be in a position where a player as technically limited as Zouma is can't possibly fight for a place in the team.

and yet, that's exactly what he wants to do.

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I really like his attitude for wanting to prove the manager wrong and that he has a place in the team. Unfortunatelly, I don't think Conte trust him so much and also I don't think Zouma's style fits into Conte's idea, the Frenchman should improve a lot to gain his trust. Probably a loan in PL will be the best situation for him, Palace sounds good, they like to rely on strong defenders like him and I think he will fit there, also he is still gonna be in London so he can spend time with his fellas from Chelsea.

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No doubt once Conte's gone we'll have a manager who loves this type of player, but Zouma will also be gone, or poorly developed. Conte should be doing what's best for our long term vision, not his short term stint.

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No doubt once Conte's gone we'll have a manager who loves this type of player, but Zouma will also be gone, or poorly developed. Conte should be doing what's best for our long term vision, not his short term stint.


yes,,but not this season. conte need more trust from board with proving winning at least the PL again or top 4 in CL. and for that ambition conte know that young player is not best option right now...

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17 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Move to Palace would be interesting. Frank de Boer is known for having an emphasis on possession and playing out frm the back, I think that would aid his development greatly, de Boer also has used a back 3 at Ajax beforehand but not as much as 4-3-3 but if he can get Kurt on loan there and bring that technical side of his game as well as his composure to another level it would be a good move because I honestly think he will struggle for games next season if he doesn't go anywhere.

If that's true it will be a disaster of a move. Kurt will never have the skillset to shine in a system playing out of the back. Ironically if Allardyce stayed Palace would have been an ideal place for him.

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14 minutes ago, Tomo said:

If that's true it will be a disaster of a move. Kurt will never have the skillset to shine in a system playing out of the back. Ironically if Allardyce stayed Palace would have been an ideal place for him.

 

I think Kurt can do it, just maybe not as well in the back 3, although playing in a back 4 is different because you have full backs and the emphasis isn't on the center backs to push up and get more involved in the play, like in a back 3. Yet again I think hes not too far away, I think if Gary Cahill or Cesar Azpilicueta can do it, then so can Zouma, its just a matter of coaching him to learn to do so along with the positional sense of playing in a back 3, sure both of them maybe have better technical ability than Zouma but you would hardly say they are outstanding technically, perhaps even tactically (Azpi is I would say), ironically Cahill being English and having played in England his whole career it is more than enough proof to show that somebody can be coached into being tactically and technically comfortable with/without the ball and learn when/what to do while playing in a back 3 because that system is very alien to English football and English footballers 9 times out of 10 will have been educated with a back 4. I wouldnt say all hope is lost for Kurt but his positional sense and technique hinders him in this formation we play, Frank de Boer is an ideal coach to try and help him in that way while giving him the chance of lots of game time.

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Stoke manager Mark Hughes has confirmed his interest in signing Kurt Zouma and is 'very hopeful' about agreeing a loan deal for the Chelsea defender.

It has been reported that Zouma will sign a new contract with his parent club before immediately being sent out on loan, with Blues boss Antonio Conte eager for the 22-year-old to get more Premier League experience under his belt.

Hughes acknowledges that Stoke face competition to sign the centre-back, it's understood that West Brom are also keen, but he is confident of bringing Zouma to the bet365 Stadium on a season-long deal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4692378/Stoke-hopeful-loan-deal-Chelsea-s-Zouma.html

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Kurt Zouma to sign new four-year Chelsea deal before joining Stoke on season-long loan | ✍ @sjstandardsport

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It's a shame he got that injury, has been struggle since then. Hopefully he can find his form and confidence back somewhere else. Good luck.

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He had bad luck in CFC career, but I really hope he thrives in Stoke and comes back great. He has that blue blood in him I think.

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3 hours ago, Igi26 said:

He had bad luck in CFC career, but I really hope he thrives in Stoke and comes back great. He has that blue blood in him I think.

This loan is cruical for his career in Chelsea :) I really liked him before injury but than he returned without preseason which is always hard ... even harder after ACL injury. 

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30 minutes ago, jernej93 said:

This loan is cruical for his career in Chelsea :) I really liked him before injury but than he returned without preseason which is always hard ... even harder after ACL injury. 

 

He was unlucky because he became available when our central trio was already made, Conte had no reason to make any changes and we were only focusing on the Premier League.

He is still only 22.. He'll play 35-40 matches for Stoke next season then we'll see. Cahill is 32, Azpilicueta's role in the squad is questionable, Rüdiger and Christensen might be flops, who knows.. He may come back stronger and more experienced.

 

Personally, I think Zouma will not fit into this 3-4-3 system. He is a beast, a great athlete, but he is very weak with the ball and choses the simpliest solution many times. Azpilicueta, Luiz, Christensen and Rüdiger are good passers and they are comfortable with the ball at their feet.

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Hope he can make the most of this loan. Otherwise, I can see his time here being over.

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