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15. Kurt Zouma

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27 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Leicester are on the verge of tossing out 45 MILLION QUID for Lewis Dunk, roflmaoooo

surely we can get around £40m for Zouma

According to Scouse accountancy United are buying Dunk for Leicester.

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7 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Zouma will not cut it at our level imo, if we can get 40 plus then let him go. We need a big fucking war chest come next summer, so I wouldnt be against it. And look at those fees man, it totally out of control. 80-90M for Maguire? How is that in any shape or form a good value? Fuck me utd are stupid if they pay up.

especially given this

On 18 July 2019, de Ligt signed for Serie A champions Juventus on a five year deal for €75 million (£67.5m).

de Ligt is only 19 and already in the top 7 to 10 CB's in the world

I can name 20 plus I would take over Harry Maguire, who also turns 27 this season, so his re-sale value is shit after 5 years 

 

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52 minutes ago, Vesper said:

especially given this

On 18 July 2019, de Ligt signed for Serie A champions Juventus on a five year deal for €75 million (£67.5m).

de Ligt is only 19 and already in the top 7 to 10 CB's in the world

I can name 20 plus I would take over Harry Maguire, who also turns 27 this season, so his re-sale value is shit after 5 years 

 

You said it man.....its bunkers for real. Why is therer such a heavy fee for Eng players I will never know? Its like its a rare crown you are buying, I would get it if it was a peak Lamps or JT etc.....but now a days Zaha costs close to 80M.....get the fuck out of here with that horse shit.

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The truth about Everton target Kurt Zouma 'handing in Chelsea transfer request'

KURT ZOUMA has not handed in a transfer request at Chelsea despite reports suggesting he has.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/793227/Everton-Kurt-Zouma-Chelsea-transfer-request

 

Chelsea though have the cloud of a transfer ban hanging over them and are reluctant to see any of their players leave.

Everton want the Frenchman back on Merseyside having already made Andre Gomes’s loan move permanent from Barcelona in a £22m deal.

But Zouma is not prepared to force through a move away from Stamford Bridge

He suffered a major knee injury in 2016 and has since spent subsequent seasons on loan at Stoke and Everton.

But the 24-year-old proved his worth last season for the Toffees and that has seen new blues boss Frank Lampard go public with his desire to keep Zouma.

“I want him here, simple as that,” he said.

“We are competitive with the centre-backs we have in the team and he had a very good season at Everton and I can understand why they want him.

“He’s a Chelsea player and I want him.”

Chelsea are even ready to loan out England Under 21 star Fikayo Timori to ensure Zouma’s playing time doesn’t suffer.

Last season David Luiz and Antonio Rudiger established a partnership in the centre of defence under Maurizio Sarri.

Danish star Andreas Christensen is also in the mix as Chelsea look to forge the necessary combinations ahead of their season opener against Manchester United.

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Honestly would rather see Christensen given more game time and Tomori being used in cup games if it means we can get 30 or 40m for him. Good defender but struggles on the ball for me still.

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Funny thing is, from these pre-season games I've been more impressed by Tomori than Zouma.

If Lampard wants the same marauding CB system he had at Derby then I would think Tomori is more suited to it than Zouma is. Which is sad since I think we all like Zouma a lot.

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Reports defender Kurt Zouma has handed in a transfer request to Chelsea are incorrect, according to Sky Sports.

Zouma is currently on a pre-season tour with the club after spending last season on loan at Everton

The France international started last Friday's friendly defeat against Kawasaki Frontale alongside David Luiz in central defence.

After the match, new manager Frank Lampard said he understood why there was interest in Zouma, but that he liked the player and insisted “he’s a Chelsea player”.

Chelsea are currently under a FIFA transfer embargo and cannot sign any players during the next two windows. 

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I'd hope we keep both tomori and zouma but that may not be viable. But both seem more of the sort of defender (tomori was part of it obv) lamps would be looking for if he wants to play like he did at Derby.

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12 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Honestly would rather see Christensen given more game time and Tomori being used in cup games if it means we can get 30 or 40m for him. Good defender but struggles on the ball for me still.

Every top club has ball playing CB’s, and even lower clubs are trying to follow suit. 

Rudiger, Christensen,Luiz,Tomori

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My guess is that Frank feels he needs to hang on to both Kurt and Fikayo until Rudi returns fully to action. If Everton really want Kurt, maybe their best chance would be to offer cash plus a CB on a one year loan with an option to recall when Rudi is back.

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33 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

My guess is that Frank feels he needs to hang on to both Kurt and Fikayo until Rudi returns fully to action. If Everton really want Kurt, maybe their best chance would be to offer cash plus a CB on a one year loan with an option to recall when Rudi is back.

An Everton CB? Yerry Mina has been disaster for them and Michael Keane is bang average. Zouma was probably their best CB last year. They are lacking CBs so loaning one to sign one wont happen on their part I would think.

For all the minutes Tomori will play, as I would imagine Andreas will be used in place of Rudi with him out, it makes no sense to retain both him and Zouma. If we desperately need to we can use Azpi at CB and go to the u23s to give us depth. If we want to give Zouma/Tomori and Andreas a chance to get regular minutes we need to go into the season with 4 CBs. For me, Rudi, Andreas, Luiz and Tomori is more than enough. Or if we loan Tomori, retain Zouma.

5 CBs is a bit excessive I think. Plus if we are really screwed use Aspi there as previously mentioned and go to u23s to make up numbers for the bench if it comes to it.

Squads bit bloated this year, in defence and in midfield. We need to get rid of a few players:

Keepers is fine.

-At RB either loan Reece James so he can play and retain Zappa/sell Zappa and retain Reece James.

-CB, as mentioned, maybe see either Tomori loaned or Zouma sold. Last year we had Rudi, Luiz, Cahill (basically frozen out), Christensen and Ampadu (who rarely played there as it was). 5 would be 1 too much, especially in an area of the pitch where you want settled partnerships. Having 5 and chopping and changing is a bad idea. All good teams are built on a solid foundation so I would like to think this is the first thing Frank will try and do is establish his first choice CB pairing and defence. Then give the other 2 guys a chance to show their worth in cup games and try work their way in. Plus not even mentioned the likes of Clarke-Salter, Trevor Chalobah etc who could be considered for that area of the pitch although not sure theyre at the level for thay yet.

-LB with Alonso and Emerson, we arent gonna see any changes there. Kenedy isnt a LB and I would hope he is moved on.

-Midfield is a bit heavy. Kante, Kova, Jorginho, Ruben, Ross and Mason are probably safe and wont be going anywhere. One of Bakayoko or Drinkwater has to go for definite, if not both. Still worried about how Frank intends on using Ross, Ruben and Mason because they all play the same position basically as the most advanced midfielder. 

-Wings are fine because we know who will be there and who wont be, or wont be when those who need to be moved on, are moved on. Willian, Pedro, CHO and Pulisic will be the 4 in the squad. 

-Strikers, not amazing pick but Giroud, Batshuayi and Tammy, look like the 3 we will be using.

 

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On 22.7.2019 at 4:04 PM, OhForAGreavsie said:

My guess is that Frank feels he needs to hang on to both Kurt and Fikayo until Rudi returns fully to action. If Everton really want Kurt, maybe their best chance would be to offer cash plus a CB on a one year loan with an option to recall when Rudi is back.

We can not register players not even loanees i think

If Kurt wants to leave we should let him for the right price. 

We have more than enough cover for the position even in the absence of Rüdiger. Api can play there, Alonso too. 

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On 23/07/2019 at 10:51 PM, Magic Lamps said:

We can not register players not even loanees i think

If Kurt wants to leave we should let him for the right price. 

We have more than enough cover for the position even in the absence of Rüdiger. Api can play there, Alonso too. 

Of course you are right. Stupid of me. Thanks for pointing it out.

It wasn't a totally serious comment mind. 

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On 23/07/2019 at 10:51 PM, Magic Lamps said:

We can not register players not even loanees i think

If Kurt wants to leave we should let him for the right price. 

We have more than enough cover for the position even in the absence of Rüdiger. Api can play there, Alonso too. 

He’s our best pure defender why should we even consider letting him go?

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4 hours ago, RJBOfficial said:

He’s our best pure defender why should we even consider letting him go?

I firmly disagree with that, his positional sense is average and the timing of his leaps are often wrong. Yes he can make a good recovery tackle but there's a reason he's constantly having to take such extreme measures in the first place.

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8 hours ago, Tomo said:

I firmly disagree with that, his positional sense is average and the timing of his leaps are often wrong. Yes he can make a good recovery tackle but there's a reason he's constantly having to take such extreme measures in the first place.

He is like a young Boateng, conoensating his lack of anticipation with pace and physicality. Those players tend to age badly. But i am happy that he has recovered fully fron that horrible knee injury in 2016. He still has a bit of time to develop his game reading abilities. Maybe one more seaspn with Christensen and Luiz will help that.

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On 27/07/2019 at 7:03 PM, RJBOfficial said:

He’s our best pure defender why should we even consider letting him go?

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On 28/07/2019 at 6:20 PM, Vesper said:

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Great mature response showing your high level of intellect 👍🏽

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3 minutes ago, RJBOfficial said:

Great mature response showing your high level of intellect 👍🏽

Because we are at a point where football has evolved where even CB’s need to be technically gifted. All top clubs have ball playing CB’s, and it’s actually embarrassing how poor Zouma is on the ball. I almost had a heart attack when Reading’s strikers were pressuring him. Reading...

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14 minutes ago, RJBOfficial said:

Great mature response showing your high level of intellect 👍🏽

always!

someone has to exhibit dichotomous tendencies on the board when it comes to a quick migration from deep cerebral pondering over to a flippant response

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