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Jason

22. Willian

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13 hours ago, LAM09 said:

I'm not being dismissive but it's to our detriment in Willian's case. How many times are we going hear the Hazard time this season?

We're aiming to win both the Prem and CL. The options at our disposal aren't good enough no matter how you look at things. We can't be solely reliant of Hazard to pull us through and have no ideas when he's absent.

Like you said willian is your squad player. You can't have a star as your 3rd option.

Finding an upgrade over willian is not required right now because we have far more urgent need on wb and backup for our midfield. Once this problems are solved we can start thinking about upgrading our right wing option. 

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Like you said willian is your squad player. You can't have a star as your 3rd option.
Finding an upgrade over willian is not required right now because we have far more urgent need on wb and backup for our midfield. Once this problems are solved we can start thinking about upgrading our right wing option. 
I'm starting to think Moses as a fill in RWF would be more effective. That's why new WB's are our main concern right now.

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“There were a few conversations with my agent. I worked with Mourinho and I became his friend as well.

“He likes me a lot and I like him a lot as a coach and as a person. He has put his trust in me and in my work, and I was very grateful to him.

“Manchester came to me, they talked with my agent, but nothing happened, because Chelsea would not negotiate me in any way and I’m very happy at Chelsea.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4208893/manchester-united-transfer-news-chelsea-willian-reveals-jose-mourinho-transfer-talks/?utm_source=FBPAGE&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SprnklrSUNOrganic&UTMX=Editorial:TheSunFootball:FBLink:Statement:Sport

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44 minutes ago, Mufassir08 said:

Gotta appreciate his commitment as well. He has his limitations but you could see he was giving his all for the cause and gave an absolute peach of a cross for Morata's first.

I agree, but I must say I expected much more from him since we brought him in. He is so inefficient with goals and assists and takes ages with the ball. Sad to see so much talent and speed in a player, but no reach the heights he could have.

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1 minute ago, Sh0n3x said:

I agree, but I must say I expected much more from him since we brought him in. He is so inefficient with goals and assists and takes ages with the ball. Sad to see so much talent and speed in a player, but no reach the heights he could have.

That is true. He is probably our best player when it comes to speed and pure technique. He is on the same level as Hazard on that regard. Yet Willian does not have the same speed of mind nor the instincts to reap the rewards of that. 

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46 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

useless for 70% then, created something and people think he has a good game.

you need to know if willian is our best player, we are in trouble.

we are in deep trouble and everyone knows that. Willian was not bad or good, he was just Willian, running through midfield with the ball carrying it nowhere. But when the other players in attack are Boga or Batshuayi, yeah then Willian is our best attacker. Can you beleive we sold Mo Salah and KDB and keep Oscar and and now play Willian, Boga and Musonda?

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1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

we are in deep trouble and everyone knows that. Willian was not bad or good, he was just Willian, running through midfield with the ball carrying it nowhere. But when the other players in attack are Boga or Batshuayi, yeah then Willian is our best attacker. Can you beleive we sold Mo Salah and KDB and keep Oscar and and now play Willian, Boga and Musonda?

Mata :cry:

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I'm not a big Willian fan but football does not take place in a vacuum. Looked like one of the few pulling his own weight today.

funny how options are... Mata is one player I do not miss at all and have not been impressed by him at united.

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I love Willian but like a couple of years ago we saw today that if he's our primary, go-to source for creativity and incisiveness in the final third we're in trouble. He's brilliant as a foil for Hazard or someone world class on the opposite side but he can't shoulder the load on his own.

He does so well in the build up but is so indecisive around the box. This is why Pedro is often favored. Still, he's a warrior and I'm glad we kept him and refused Mourinho's advances.

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Absolutely love this bloke's attitude. I would go as far as saying he was the only one showed showed some bollocks in the first half. What a stupendous cross for Morata's goal, too.

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2 hours ago, BlueLion. said:

Absolutely love this bloke's attitude. I would go as far as saying he was the only one showed showed some bollocks in the first half. What a stupendous cross for Morata's goal, too.

Should've gotten another assist as well, if only Morata had more sense to leave Christiansen's shot (which looked like it was going in)...
But I still don't like his standing still routine and suddenly shifting to the right with a kick-stepover..slows down our play and allows opponents to regroup.

Willian is an immense player when he's carrying the ball forward, in fact almost unstoppable when he's dribbling at pace on the counter...

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4 minutes ago, zakhov said:

Should've gotten another assist as well, if only Morata had more sense to leave Christiansen's shot (which looked like it was going in)...
But I still don't like his standing still routine and suddenly shifting to the right with a kick-stepover..slows down our play and allows opponents to regroup.

Willian is an immense player when he's carrying the ball forward, in fact almost unstoppable when he's dribbling at pace on the counter...

Not sure about Christensen's shot, Sky showed a really good angle from behind the angle that the ball was struck... I genuinely believe it was going to come back full off the post. Any striker worth their salt has to gamble on the one at the back post, so I can't really fault him for that. But I do entirely take your point! He's better than a lot of people give credit for. 

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59 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

We needed him to step up these past 2 games. He has been poor. Pedro and Hazard for me.

Willian was our best player against Burnley. Are you serious? Today after a slow first half, improved late second half and did an amazing run and shot which hit the post.

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Willian was our best player against Burnley. Are you serious? Today after a slow first half, improved late second half and did an amazing run and shot which hit the post.
His effort more often than not can't be questioned but he just lacks that final pass. Should have freed Moses midway through the first half like Pedro did for our winner.

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