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Jason

22. Willian

Started by Jason,

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But guys, Willian was Chelsea's player of the Season last year! 

I cannot stand Willian's non-contributions in attack. He's simply allergic to scoring any open play goal, and constantly hiding with the types of runs he makes to avoid putting himself in goal-scoring opportunities. 

Like I was saying all summer, Upgrade needed. 

EDIT: The prosecution rests it's case. 

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Nothing worse than an attacking player who doesn't do what's he supposed to do. I don't care how hard you work or track back etc, your job is to score goals and assist in goals just like the defenders job is to stop goals getting in. He hasn't done any of that but for some reason they decided to give him a new contract. 

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I wouldn't mind moses starting sometimes, or bats and letting willian be the make way.  however, i bet if he had a proper outside back working with him on the outside going forward he would be 4 times as effective.

 

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Has to cover all day long for Ivanovic's defensive imprecisions, take the ball out of a fucking mouse hole to get it back and forward to the opponent's half by himself every time because his right back has combination technique of a 10 year old, yet, still the first name on the stick list post-match. 

He's a brilliant winger, just needs to be played left, or next to a full-back who can actually combine and does his shit defensively.

And if you even have doubts about his footballing qualities, at least appreciate him for all the fucks he gave and the efforts he kept during all last season, when every fucker around him was playing at non-league level. 

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The topic is silent, thanks to that great goal, since he wasnt great, and I would even say that was his worst performance of the season. Actually I don't think he has been really that bad in the previous games as this forum suggests.

An interesting stat: since the last season, only Costa has more goals than Willian. Indeed that speaks more about the quality of the squad than anything else, but Willian is the least of our problems, while this thread suggests he is even worst than Moses, 

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Sensational goal. Reminded me of Hazard's against United in the epic 2-2 draw in the FA cup in 2013.

He's exceptionally good at that little movement of the ball just before he takes the shot.

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On 02/10/2016 at 11:16 AM, Kieran. said:

His mom recently was diagnosed with cancer in Sept, might explain his form...

Yeah. I'm going to lay off criticising him too much tbh, must be incredibly hard considering she's in !razil too. 

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5 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Yeah. I'm going to lay off criticising him too much tbh, must be incredibly hard considering she's in !razil too. 

For real. We forget these players are humans too. I'm sure you saw the quick little interview with Hazard interviewing Willian, and Willian straightaway dedicated the goal to his mom. 

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He's still one of my favourite players. I see everything he brings to the table. We've had 0 managers interested in developing the talent at our disposal, we aren't a club for growth in that sense, but if he was at one (Barcelona, Liverpool, Dortmund, Juve) we'd be crying to have him. I can't name 5 players who keep the ball better than him. I can't name 5 players with more stamina than him. I can't name 5 players with a better attitude or more commitment to their team. 

He's obviously an asset, at worst a bench player, not a player you ever sell.  

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On 2. 10. 2016 at 4:54 AM, Henrique said:

The topic is silent, thanks to that great goal, since he wasnt great, and I would even say that was his worst performance of the season. Actually I don't think he has been really that bad in the previous games as this forum suggests.

An interesting stat: since the last season, only Costa has more goals than Willian. Indeed that speaks more about the quality of the squad than anything else, but Willian is the least of our problems, while this thread suggests he is even worst than Moses, 

Fact that he is second in scored goals like you said says alot about the rest of the squad, little about Willian.

I will lay my criticism toward Willian for now (after hearing the situation with his mom), but there is no denaying the truth. Considering he is a winger, his work is to create opportunities, cross, dribble etc. Just because he scored second most goals in the team, doesnt mean he can now be excused, because he didnt score 20+ goals to justify his poor overall play. He is still very poor in transition of the ball, which stops most of our attacks.

He has his values and when in form he can be a realy good player, but generaly in the time since his arrival, he improved little if any, so the discussion is definately not out of place.

Sad thing is, there are other problems we have to face, and if you look at Ivanovic, Cahill, Matic, Oscar, Cesc, Tibo's thread you will see plenty of criticism there too, in that case Willians criticism in this thread is fair too.

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After sleeping I realise, he's like our Kuyt, or our Park Ji-Sung. They didn't score every week, but they weren't supposed to.

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Maybe, Willian can have an attacking side, usually Ivanovic's stupidness doesn't allow him to move forward. But take Ivanovic out and he may do something.

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