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2013/2014: 35 starts + 10 sub apps - 4 goals + 7 assists

2014/2015: 31 starts + 13 sub apps - 4 goals + 5 assists

The main reason is he prefers passing back to ivanovic when he can't dribble or his crosses never get to anyone.

He needs more vertical through passes to the running costa to get assists and he needs to get into the box anytime hazard dribbles into the box from the left to score more (cuadrado is better than him at this)

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I hate the way people on this forum constantly fail to understand what a football team needs to succeed it really frustrates me and one of the reasons why I don't post much anymore. The problem is statistics are so misleading and can support many arguments !

Ruud Van Nistelrooy would get 25-30 goals per season but the whole team would be geared towards him achieving those statistics which is why they only won 1 league title in 5 seasons at united during his time as their centre forward. Van Nistelrooy required too much support for him to score those goals to the detriment of the team and it was no coincidence Man utd won a glut of premier league titles and a champions league as soon as he left the club ! Man Utd carried Van Nistelrooy because of his selfishness and also his vastly inferior physical capabilities in other words he wasn't the quickest or most physical of forwards.

Fernando Torres was a star at Liverpool... why ? Liverpool geared their whole team around providing Fernando Torres the ammunition to score goals to the detriment of their whole team.

Kalou was one of the most productive wingers lol :clown: ''statistically'' in the league during his time but for him to achieve those numbers he lost the ball more times then I can remember to the detriment of the team. Kalou had a prodcution rate of 10 goals and 10 assists for like 4 seasons lol 20+ overall production rate haha and he wasn't half the player Willian is.

You always have to look and evaluate why someone is scoring so many goals or assisting so many and work out if hes doing it in a cost effective way or if he's doing it to the detriment of the team.

Willian gives us great balance in the sense that he is a very sound footballer and he always gives us that crucial stability that we need to win games.

Nice post :)

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Kalou was one of the most productive wingers lol :clown: ''statistically'' in the league during his time but for him to achieve those numbers he lost the ball more times then I can remember to the detriment of the team. Kalou had a prodcution rate of 10 goals and 10 assists for like 4 seasons lol 20+ overall production rate haha and he wasn't half the player Willian is.

This is pretty much taking the piss

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Willian is so underappreciated, a real shame.

The FIFA generation. If he doesn't have a bunch of assists, or goals, then he isn't treasured by the average young kid.

What he brings to the side is great though. Whether or not that is worth his price tag is another thing though....

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The FIFA generation. If he doesn't have a bunch of assists, or goals, then he isn't treasured by the average young kid.

What he brings to the side is great though. Whether or not that is worth his price tag is another thing though....

There's a difference between a bunch and barely any assists or goals. The only thing we can give him credit for atm is his workrate, but that's really not good enough imo. He has been better in the 2nd half of the season though, if he keeps this up he might change my opinion of him.
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There's a difference between a bunch and barely any assists or goals. The only thing we can give him credit for atm is his workrate, but that's really not good enough imo. He has been better in the 2nd half of the season though, if he keeps this up he might change my opinion of him.

If he was at any other big club, he wouldn't be anywhere near the starting eleven. Top players NEED an end product.

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Most underrated player here. Give him a run in the #10 position and you guys will change your opinion about him.

He's like Azpi, played out of position, so you can't expect him to shine there. But he's very vital for the system Mou plays.

Seems like a good team chemistry guy as well. judging solely based on instragram posts

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Most underrated player here. Give him a run in the #10 position and you guys will change your opinion about him.

He's like Azpi, played out of position, so you can't expect him to shine there. But he's very vital for the system Mou plays.

For sure. Shame that logic wasn't used for players recently moved on or sold.

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Most underrated player here. Give him a run in the #10 position and you guys will change your opinion about him.

He's like Azpi, played out of position, so you can't expect him to shine there. But he's very vital for the system Mou plays.

A player scared of the opponents' 18 and giving almost any direct, attacking passes to teammates isn't going to fucking transform his personality on the pitch if he shifts 15-20 yards. It's not like we haven't seen him there BECAUSE WE HAVE! And he does his dumb fucking stepovers that fool absolutely no one and shoots and misses or passes backwards. You can't be an attacking player with no end product or even lack the ability to contribute to the build up.

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A player scared of the opponents' 18 and giving almost any direct, attacking passes to teammates isn't going to fucking transform his personality on the pitch if he shifts 15-20 yards. It's not like we haven't seen him there BECAUSE WE HAVE! And he does his dumb fucking stepovers that fool absolutely no one and shoots and misses or passes backwards. You can't be an attacking player with no end product or even lack the ability to contribute to the build up.

I saw him at 10 for us, and he was good.

Everton and Stoke as examples for this season. He didn't play there a lot this year because Cesc plays there too.

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