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xPetrCechx

Isco

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We need a more goalscorers in our team, especially if we lose Hazard. Signing another player with Willian' output to replace Eden wouldn't be best decision.

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31 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

If we end up selling Hazard, it would be wise to consider a swap+money with Real rather than just getting a truck load of cash

I agree. It's a fantastic opportunity to grab one if not two of the Madrid lads. Isco/Asensio/Bale and Kovacic plus a few hundred millions. Thanks.

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I think losing Hazard will/would be tough for Chelsea but on the other hand it could be a big boost for our team if we play our cards right :) 


- Buy proper left wing back in January (Telles, Alex Sandro) and maybe Malcolm or Bailey if they are available, otherwise focus on young and quality winger in summer (Fekir, Malcolm, Bailey ...)
- Sell Hazard for 100M + Kovačič and Isco
- Sell Willian and Batshuayi
- Invest  money in worldclass rightback, winger (if we don't get one in January) and b2b midfielder (unless Bakayoko steps up big time :D)
- Don't buy some average players, rather bring loanees and youngsters in first team 

Our team would like MUCH more balanced and better IMO :) But this is dream scenario, we will probably sell Hazard for 150M and buy players like Zappacosta and Djilobodji ... 

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I think if anybody expects us to get 100m + Isco and anyone else from Madrid including the likes of Bale, Kovacic or Asensio... they need to wake up.... more chance in hell freezing over.

The question is with or without Hazard next season will Conte still be here? Because if he is and continues with 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 then we can go yeah sure Hazard wants to go to Madrid so take the 100-125m+ or whatever go to Juventus and buy Dybala because he is an extremely high level player and can play that second striker sort of position and probably shoehorn into one of the two off the frontman in a 3. I'd have no doubts that he is the right player to replace Hazard if he does go even if Madrid give us an Isco, Asesnio or a Kovacic.

If we lose Conte and Hazard then we have a different problem in my eyes because who do you sign to replace Hazard as a left winger? I can't see us changing coach and continuing with the same formation, particularly if we end up with somebody like Carlo or as Craig Bellamy said, Brendan Rodgers (lol), so who do you play there? Or will the club not sign a direct replacement and try trust in Musonda or somebody else? 

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23 minutes ago, the wes said:

if selling Hazard gets us Isco then i wouldnt mind at all to be honest, but can we pull off any deal of that kind? knowing our incopetent board Isco would end up at City, Liverpool or United and we would only have cash from Hazard sale. gone are the days our board would get these kind of deals done without too much hesitation or hastle.

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5 hours ago, the wes said:

Make him top priority in any deal then if Hazard goes. Selling Isco to replace him with Hazard is a strange deal for me. Isco can play off the front, has operated in a 3 man MF too as the more advanced. I'd take him here in a heart beat even if it meant losing Hazard. Although he should be recruited to play with him. 

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27 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Make him top priority in any deal then if Hazard goes. Selling Isco to replace him with Hazard is a strange deal for me. Isco can play off the front, has operated in a 3 man MF too as the more advanced. I'd take him here in a heart beat even if it meant losing Hazard. Although he should be recruited to play with him. 

what You think off Marco Asensio ??

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1 hour ago, the wes said:

what You think off Marco Asensio ??

My opinion is biased but I think Asensio has potential to be world class. His off field attics and limit play time are derailing him unfortunately.

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Isco, Asensio,...etc are all good players, but they are such typical laliga players.

We need players of high potential, who are suited to PL and be their very best.

Morata is very very poor example, but he is the definition why you have to ask twice who you are buying. 

His style of play of constantly throwing himself on the ground, not coping physicaly and also picks injuries quite frequently. 

And there is obviously the "love" for spain. They keep talking about it.

Big question how they feel when they were in best club in world and then come here. 

Im sure there would be no genuine love from them for Chelsea, they all already love Madrid.

How about we get players from lesser teams who are eager to improve and impress and can genuinely love Chelsea because thats their first big team that gave them chance.

Thats why Lamps, Drogba, Essien, Riccy,...all love the club so much. They came from smaller team and chelsea was like lotery win for them. 

For Asensio or Isco, it would feel they werent good enough for their favourite team and now they are stuck here. 

Stop picking these rejects from other teams, and go for players that are fantastic, but not in best teams yet.

Isco however isnt even reject, he wont leave Madrid.

Bottom line keep Eden and tell Madrid to fuck off. 

I havent been impressed by any Madrid/Barca reject apart from Yaya and Makelele in recent years. Cesc, Ozil, Alexis, Di Maria,...you see they have talent, but they ultimately lack that edge. 

We built 2004 team on top players who played for smaller teams. Eden and Kante are for example another two, more recent. 

With those two, or our 2004 generation, its simple. They did and do their job. They simply do it. 

With Morata and Cesc and Ozil and Alexis there is always something. Be it shit finishing for Morata, inconsitency, Cesc with his awful ball hold up and crap mentality, Ozil same crap mentality, chokes in big games and Alexis being winny bitch. 

I mean they are all super talented, but ultimately you cant rely on them. And thats why they were sold. 

How many times we got frustrated by Cesc? He is a fucking experienced midfield playmaker, someone who controls the game, yet he isnt even closr to that. All he can do is long pass if he has space. Can he do anything else, like lead the team, defend, dribble, shoot, play b2b? No. And others are the same, just different positions.

Morata is same, he can score, but he misses easy goals, he goes down all the time. Thats not what you call reliable striker. 

Ozil and Alexis are completely the same. Thank fuck we didnt buy Alexis, even more so because of the wages he demanded. He is so frustrating to watch. Dont even start with Ozil. 

Modric, Iniesta, Suarez,...those are class players. But they are never available.

Would Barca or Madrid want Morata, Ozil, Alexis, Cesc now? No. Because they are not good enough. Would they get Kante, Eden? Yes they would, because they are good. 

And what does that mean? If we have enough of Edens and Kantes in team, we can beat anyone. We might not have superstars, but these players have the edge to win. 

You wont win jackshit with Alexis, Ozil, Cesc....

Yeah yeah Cesc helped us to win title when he came, but he had so many many flaws in game already. He always needed cover from Matic and he sucked against any big team apart from Arsenal. And he was equaly invisible in CL. 

Modric however is the real deal. 

We cant attract ready made world stars, but we can get top top players from small teams. Dont forget Suarez, Modric,...all played in small teams once and they are now big game players.

We have to target players like Bailey, Torreira,...and we will be among the top again. With consistent and quality players that will be desired by other big teams, not rejected. 

Thats how you win the titles. But obviously we have to target quality players from smaller sides, not Zappacostas and Drinkwaters. 

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British papers are speculating Real will sell for around £75m in the summer, so basically what we paid for Bakayoko and Drinkwater.

I'd like to hope if this is true, we're in for him. He would make a huge difference and offer a completely different dynamic within our squad.

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9 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

British papers are speculating Real will sell for around £75m in the summer, so basically what we paid for Bakayoko and Drinkwater.

I'd like to hope if this is true, we're in for him. He would make a huge difference and offer a completely different dynamic within our squad.

Exactly. We need much more technical players in our squad and Isco fits that bill very well.

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Bring him, sell Pedro, switch to 3-5-2, and rule the world. It's a pity that we would still have hole in midfield playing alongside Kante, even if we bring Isco. But good thing then - we wouldn't need some complete creative midfield like Saul, Koke, Rakitić etc, to partner Kante. Actually, if we had Isco, Matić (or player like him) would be enough I think. But I would go for someone slightly better with ball than Matić, of course, even with Isco in team.

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2 hours ago, Fernando said:

Another quality player for City. 

city don't need him they have B.Sliva who's very similar to Isco if Hazard gones to real we should be asking isco apart of the Hazard deal 

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