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Where I come from it's only banter if you're friends. If you're not it's called being a cunt and you'd probably get your ass kicked for it :cfc:

Are you friends with PhilDriver by any chance?

If not then stop winding him and all the others up like you have done with your petty little jabs and sneaky one liners, if that's not the case then 'lol' keep going you're so hilarious, banter init.

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Who is Jake? If you're going to make up a name for me can it be something a little cooler, like Lazer Thundercrotch?

I think it pertains to your views on Azpi and Ivanovic, and why you're expressing them. Not to start a whole new debate but I think you're adopting certain positions for certain reasons that are less than sincere.

Either way, let's just agree to disagree. At the end of the day we're all Chelsea supporters. :D

Well Jack Foulkes, you're not here to question my motives and I don't accept your jabs at me. So I'm asking you for one last time to stop your "banter" towards me.

Are you friends with PhilDriver by any chance?

If not then stop winding him and all the others up like you have done with your petty little jabs and sneaky one liners, if that's not the case then 'lol' keep going you're so hilarious, banter init.

I've never joked around with Phill or wound him up. I've never had a problem with Phill, in fact we rarely ever speak. I might disagree with almost everything Phill writes, but at least he expresses his opinion respectfully and without bringing anything personal into the discuassion.

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Well Jack Foulkes, you're not here to question my motives and I don't accept your jabs at me. So I'm asking you for one last time to stop your "banter" towards me.

I've never joked around with Phill or wound him up. I've never had a problem with Phill, in fact we rarely ever speak. I might disagree with almost everything Phill writes, but at least he expresses his opinion respectfully and without bringing anything personal into the discuassion.

What is even your case? That is whats amusing me right now, this cultural differences which appeared all of a sudden which you failed to even mention before Spike Spiegal had to bring it up and now you've suddenly clinched onto it is not even making any sense. Mainly because you yourself are winding people up, people like Phill which you have just proven that you don't class as a friend since you 'rarely' speak to him as you just so previously mentioned in your last post.

This is all so Luis Suarezish don't you think? Cultural differences, but of course this time I would respect that if it hand not of been for the fact you are winding others up yourself.

SO AS I CLEARLY STATED, don't give it if you can't take it.

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What is even your case? That is whats amusing me right now, this cultural differences which appeared all of a sudden which you failed to even mention before Spike Spiegal had to bring it up and now you've suddenly clinched onto it is not even making any sense. Mainly because you yourself are winding people up, people like Phill which you have just proven that you don't class as a friend since you 'rarely' speak to him as you just so previously mentioned in your last post.

This is all so Luis Suarezish don't you think? Cultural differences, but of course this time I would respect that if it hand not of been for the fact you are winding others up yourself.

SO AS I CLEARLY STATED, don't give it if you can't take it.

It's not a cultural difference, anywhere in the world if you're constantly being wound up by people you don't like it'll eventually get on your nerves.

Give it? Go ahead, and show one single example where I try to wind someone up other than Jack who's made it his life goal for the past year to get on my nerves.

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Well Jack Foulkes, you're not here to question my motives and I don't accept your jabs at me. So I'm asking you for one last time to stop your "banter" towards me.

Someone's been talking to WHS haven't they Nour.

without bringing anything personal into the discuassion.

And you bringing up something private that I sent to another member in private is 'not bringing anything personal into the discussion'.

Why are you bringing up things other members have sent to other members in private? :noexpression::noexpression::noexpression::noexpression:

Is that part of the Ts and Cs now? Is that what other admins are going to do?

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I try to wind someone up other than Jack who's made it his life goal for the past year to get on my nerves.

I wasn't aware I'd made that information public.

In fact I haven't, whereas you have linked to your Twitter account thus making certain information public. I'm not going to discuss this further in this thread.

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It's not a cultural difference, anywhere in the world if you're constantly being wound up by people you don't like it'll eventually get on your nerves.

Give it? Go ahead, and show one single example where I try to wind someone up other than Jack who's made it his life goal for the past year to get on my nerves.

When Mikel had one good game in about 15 against United, you stated that he had 'proven' everyone wrong, that is winding people up and you know it. I know you're not a stupid person so you know yourself by that one game wouldn't prove anything, especially 30 minutes.

Even your signature, now look I know it's not my place to say that it's wrong, but it is going to give off the wrong idea, like it or not you enemies about your Mikel discussions. Look at that guy who got banned because he got so mad at you in the Mikel thread, what was his name BleedsBlue or something?

Now as any member in your position or even an ADMIN you would think of just removing that if you didn't want the bad attention or the unfortunate winding up from some people which you have just stated you don't like. Just some tiny advice I've added, take it or leave it, but you do wind people up, I have no proof if at times you mean it or don't mean it but I have a good idea, but I doubt you would really care for my opinion.

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When Mikel had one good game in about 15 against United, you stated that he had 'proven' everyone wrong, that is winding people up and you know it. I know you're not a stupid person so you know yourself by that one game wouldn't prove anything, especially 30 minutes.

Even your signature, now look I know it's not my place to say that it's wrong, but it is going to give off the wrong idea, like it or not you enemies about your Mikel discussions. Look at that guy who got banned because he got so mad at you in the Mikel thread, what was his name BleedsBlue or something?

Now as any member in your position or even an ADMIN you would think of just removing that if you didn't want the bad attention or the unfortunate winding up from some people which you have just stated you don't like. Just some tiny advice I've added, take it or leave it, but you do wind people up, I have no proof if at times you mean it or don't mean it but I have a good idea, but I doubt you would really care for my opinion.

Except none of these were aimed at anyone. If you're wound up by an opinion it's not really my fault. I've never aimed at upsetting anyone while "I know your loyalties are divided" clearly is aimed at upsetting me. And BleedsBlue? If he can't handle an opinion different to his and makes serious stuff up like racism, then it is my fault? Again, give me one example where I'm supposedly winding people up. Quote one of the posts that I use to wind people up.

I wasn't aware I'd made that information public.

In fact I haven't, whereas you have linked to your Twitter account thus making certain information public. I'm not going to discuss this further in this thread.

Lighten up Jacky, I'm just trying what you call "banter". Always very educational to experience new cultures :D

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Lighten up Jacky, I'm just trying what you call "banter". Always very educational to experience new cultures :D

I'm not discussing this matter further in threads.

Banter is one thing - disclosing private information that someone hasn't agreed to make public is another.

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Except none of these were aimed at anyone. If you're wound up by an opinion it's not really my fault. I've never aimed at upsetting anyone while "I know your loyalties are divided" clearly is aimed at upsetting me. And BleedsBlue? If he can't handle an opinion different to his and makes serious stuff up like racism, then it is my fault? Again, give me one example where I'm supposedly winding people up. Quote one of the posts that I use to wind people up.

Lighten up Jacky, I'm just trying what you call "banter". Always very educational to experience new cultures :D

Aiming?

Winding people up is winding people up, are you really going to be that childish and say that because he was 'aiming' that at me he's the nasty one? Doesn't matter if you make it obvious or you make it as subtle as a ninja, winding up is still the same degree no matter what.

I've already stated two points that you do to wind people up. And you really want me to go digging up posts in Mikel thread? Why don't i just shot all 50000 of your posts from that thread on here? You're not starting to do it in the Schurrle thread, where you can't accept he's had a bad game and then start making bizarre remarks about how he had a brilliant game.

AGAIN IT'S WINDING PEOPLE UP, I would post all these examples, but in my culture, my Middlesbrough culture, it doesn't consist of wasting my own time searching for posts what I don't care that much about, that offends me and my smoggy culture.

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Aiming? Winding people up is winding people up, are you really going to be that childish and say that because he was 'aiming' that at me he's the nasty one? Doesn't matter if you make it obvious or you make it as subtle as a ninja, winding up is still the same degree no matter what. I've already stated two points that you do to wind people up. And you really want me to go digging up posts in Mikel thread? Why don't i just shot all 50000 of your posts from that thread on here? You're not starting to do it in the Schurrle thread, where you can't accept he's had a bad game and then start making bizarre remarks about how he had a brilliant game. AGAIN IT'S WINDING PEOPLE UP, I would post all these examples, but in my culture, my Middlesbrough culture, it doesn't consist of wasting my own time searching for posts what I don't care that much about, that offends me and my smoggy culture.

But that's the point, I'm not trying to subtly wind anyone up, those are my genuine opinions and they are all opinions related to Chelsea and Chelsea players and which I try to back up with reasoning. If you feel wound up by an opinion that's different than yours, there really nothing I can do to help you.

Right, so back to Azpi. I really hope he starts against Schalke. Daxler is too quick for Iva and stopping him will be vital in the match. Schalke also like to exploit the flanks and we all know that Iva can't stop crosses. Brana will be perfect for the City game where we'll like to defend deep.

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There's not much to discuss. Azpi is a good player who has become even better by not playing and had his deficiencies excised. In limited minutes he's looked a little poor, but that might just be rust whereas Ivanovic has been a dependable presence if somewhat unflashy.

He's also scored one winning goal and his tactical flexibility has enabled us to make in-game adjustments like the one against Norwich which saw us win the game.

It's not a position we need to change at the moment but when the fixtures start to pile-up then Azpi will get his chance having gotten to know Jose's system better. The rest of the stuff in the thread is the result of a poster doing things they shouldn't and other posters being sucked in.

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Maybe. Maybe not. Some have taken it a tad too far just because it's Mourinho..

And not sure about Guardiola there really. May have won the lot at Barcelona but still has his doubters around.

Mourinho has more doubters than pep that its not even close.

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Ivanovic can play Centre-back. So, Jose can easily switch to a back-3 by swapping the Left-back for an attacker. Maybe that's another reason why he's starting Ivan over Azpilicueta. Has happened 3 times so far

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Except he has been though. He's the form right-back in the league for me and the first name on the team sheet at the moment.

I'm not exactly disputing Ivanovic's form, which has been alright, but think it will benefit the team more if Azpi is in the team. Defensively solid as Ivanovic and offer more going forward.

Azpi is a good player but I think you're over-exaggerating a tad.

Nah. Azpi is a specialist RB and has shown his qualities in that position to operate better than Ivanovic will ever be.

Or it means that he sees tactical versatility in using Ivanovic - but are those extra points we got at Norwich really all that important?

Again, not disputing that as a possible reason but is it really all that important to have 3 CBs in a back 3 in situations where we only change to that when chasing after a game? After all, we have ended up having makeshifts wide player or CM playing in the FB position when that happens anyway...

And there are plenty of people who will rub their hands with glee when it happens, but right now he's been a rock for us. He doesn't stop working for the team and he provides an extra danger at set-pieces.

That is arguably the main reason why Ivanovic has been preferred over Azpi so far, because of the height and aerial presence the former provides.

Again, this seems to be based on the premise that Azpi is the better right-back. I'm sorry but not everyone agrees with that.

No. It's a general thing happening across the board, not just this one alone.

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Mourinho has more doubters than pep that its not even close.

My point was had Guardiola came here, I don't think the fans would be as calm and just believe everything he does is right, like Mourinho now, despite his track record at Barcelona.

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