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10. Eden Hazard

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1 minute ago, 11Drogba said:

Sarri didn't send a message to the players in that press conference. He sees them everyday. It was a message to fans and the board, implying that the results are players' fault not his.

Think you misquoted me mate..

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1 minute ago, Hamilton said:

Think you misquoted me mate..

Well when the coach talks about players being hard to motivate Hazard is the first person fans look at and he became the scapegoat like you said.

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6 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

If its true Sarri called him out alone then dont expect much fom him until Sarri is sacked. Hazard is laid back, but as seen during that Mourinho death spiral he has a mean streak in him. He'll no doubt down tools.

He was playing with an injury in that period.

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38 minutes ago, Weckerz said:

Jikes, the reactions in here.. holy scapegoat

 

Really? 2 bad seasons he got no criticism for and a lot of poor performances this one when we all know he can do better.. its been a long time coming. Lets not sugarcoat it. If anybody is happy with him half arsing it and playing poorly like has the last while bar the Spurs game then I would be surprised. Sarri called him out for playing how he wants, not how the manager wants him to do. The manager is top dog, not Eden. Team comes first before him too. Bet you would be the first to criticze Sarri too saying its his fault Edens playing so poorly.

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8 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Not just Eden but footballers in general are absolute snowflakes now, does my fucking head in.

Manager X criticizes player Y, tells him he's not doing enough and player sulks and doesn't do his job. I don't know the full ins and outs or what has been said so this may apply or not.

My dad was managed by Brian Clough, Cloughie called my dad out once and said "Listen son your not doing enough, you've been shite for weeks now" My dad spent 3 weeks cleaning boots and washing changing room floors.

I do the same we these egotistical wankers...Oh wait you cannot even criticize them now, they start fucking crying and act like bastard kids.

Man the fuck up.

I agree. But the players are that way because clubs tolerate that shit. 

If Sarri benches such player, he gets the sack while player gets backing by entire board. 

They know that and thats the real problem. 

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8 hours ago, Special Juan said:

My dad was managed by Brian Clough, Cloughie called my dad out once and said "Listen son your not doing enough, you've been shite for weeks now" My dad spent 3 weeks cleaning boots and washing changing room floors.

 

The very best I’ve read since I’m a member here. Would love to see your dad’s copy paste situation on half of this Chelsea squad. 👌🏻

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4 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

10 goals and 10 assists. Directly involved in half the goals we've scored....but he's THE fucking problem ?!  XD You fuckers crack me up. 

Hazard carries this team. If he plays well, the team plays well. If he doesn't play well, the team doesn't play well. 

It's been like that for a while now. There just isn't anyone else he can look to to share the burden. 

Our most succesfull years ,after the old guard era, was when we had Costa and Fabregas. Why ? because Costa took some of the burden by scoring 20 goals.

Because Fabregas took some of the creative burden. People here expect Hazard to be some 1 man army.

Always playing great in nearly every single game. The consistency you demand doesn't exist. It simply doesn't exist. No one is that consistent maybe if you only watch the highlights of the other teams. 

C ronaldo had months where he looked like shit, Neymar went several months without scoring a single goal at Barcelona, Messi had periods where he looked like he was going out for an evening stroll.  

They're human beings. Form fluctuates. They have periods where things go great and periods where things aren't going great.

When Hazard has his period where things don't go great, we crumble and you people fucking crucify him for it every single fucking time. 

 

The thing is bro, the team only play well when Eden plays well because the rest of the team are shit. That's because the board rely on Hazard to carry them. So in conclusion, Hazard kind of is the problem. If he goes then maybe the board will have no other choice than to buy more decent players. Otherwise be prepared for Everton-esque status.

Also you can't deny if you are really a Chelsea fan and not just a fan of Hazard, that his constant talk of Madrid and careless attitude is detrimental to the team and club in terms of togetherness and respect.

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17 minutes ago, DDA said:

The thing is bro, the team only play well when Eden plays well because the rest of the team are shit. That's because the board rely on Hazard to carry them. So in conclusion, Hazard kind of is the problem. If he goes then maybe the board will have no other choice than to buy more decent players. Otherwise be prepared for Everton-esque status.

Also you can't deny if you are really a Chelsea fan and not just a fan of Hazard, that his constant talk of Madrid and careless attitude is detrimental to the team and club in terms of togetherness and respect.

heh good luck with the second part.

Agreed. Football is a very competitive market and it is VERY easy to attract top players when you offer top wages.

Can't really agree with the idea that Hazard is carrying the team when every manager, and now himself, tells us otherwise.

Mourinho said that Hazard had a free role and the rest ran for him. Some into the ground (like Oscar). Conte did not say anything, but hazard performances in his second season spoke for themselves.

Now Sarri is saying that Hazard plays for himself and not the team. The player's answer is that he does not care about what the manager says, and that he does play for himself (to be happy or whatever other nonsense he said). I honestly cannot understand how folks don't see a pattern here.

It's really not about the stats, but the context in which we take them. Hazard is not a team player and either he is shining on his own, in which case the team benefits from it, or he is useless and the team hurts a lot. Because when a different type of player has a bad day, he might still do the defensive phase (like Sarri likes to say), which Hazard does not seem willing to (which drives the criticism from the manager). So, while Hazard's and this other player may have similar attacking stats, their defensive numbers, or even the more subtle ones (like how many off-the-ball runs), can be drastically different.

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5 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

10 goals and 10 assists. Directly involved in half the goals we've scored....but he's THE fucking problem ?!  XD You fuckers crack me up. 

Hazard carries this team. If he plays well, the team plays well. If he doesn't play well, the team doesn't play well. 

It's been like that for a while now. There just isn't anyone else he can look to to share the burden. 

Our most succesfull years ,after the old guard era, was when we had Costa and Fabregas. Why ? because Costa took some of the burden by scoring 20 goals.

Because Fabregas took some of the creative burden. People here expect Hazard to be some 1 man army.

Always playing great in nearly every single game. The consistency you demand doesn't exist. It simply doesn't exist. No one is that consistent maybe if you only watch the highlights of the other teams. 

C ronaldo had months where he looked like shit, Neymar went several months without scoring a single goal at Barcelona, Messi had periods where he looked like he was going out for an evening stroll.  

They're human beings. Form fluctuates. They have periods where things go great and periods where things aren't going great.

When Hazard has his period where things don't go great, we crumble and you people fucking crucify him for it every single fucking time. 

 

Form wise when was the last time Hazard played at a high level cor weeks on end? The first 7 games of the season?

The consistency doesnt exist? Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar all more consistent. That is a fact. In the last 4 seasons Eden fell completely off the map in 2 of them after being arguably the player of the year in title winning seasons. Or you going to tell me that is perfectly fucking normal? 😂

If Hazard was Willian this thread would be full of criticism every week, regardless of performances so I think there is a bit of biast in all fairness. If you are happy with Eden playing like this too fair enough 😂 I know I aint. Half arsed it for ages now except the Spurs game.

Also good to see youve actually acknowledged Costa and Cescs roles because others on here would soley just give Eden all the credit for those title winning seasons. 

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I agree he’s not so consistent as those top players you are mentioning, but hey they play in world class teams. We have mid table players who most of the time only play sideways or backwards.

I totally agree with you guys on the rm talk, it’s getting embarrassing last weeks. (Although most of times ripped out of context imo)

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Head is turned. Why really bother learning a new system and philosophy when he knows he is gone in the summer. He just do his thing right now. I think thats the problem with the squad atm. Willian, Pedro and Hazard knows their future is uncertain due to intrest from RM and our over 30 policy. Their heads aren’t here 100%. 

And that is on the boards table. Should have fixed that last summer.

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17 minutes ago, Hamilton said:

I agree he’s not so consistent as those top players you are mentioning, but hey they play in world class teams. We have mid table players who most of the time only play sideways or backwards.

I totally agree with you guys on the rm talk, it’s getting embarrassing last weeks. (Although most of times ripped out of context imo)

The thing that the majority on here are losing site of is that all this playing sideways,backwards is all part of this playing style.

Its used when teams play deep and as a method for bringing them out to create space for the forwards to move into!!

Now if a twat lie me can understand that why can't others???

By your way of thinking GOOD players will only be good among other GOOD players?

But why wouldn't a GOOD player rise to the occasion and show that he is GOOD every game?

This incinsistant form of Edens is nothing new. Peeps here are talking like it is only just coming about. He has had off periods of MANY weeks going back to the start.

Its either some lack of character- lack of fight, or he just doesn't give a fuck.

I think its a mixture of all 3.

He only plays when we are winning.

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19 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Not just Eden but footballers in general are absolute snowflakes now, does my fucking head in.

Manager X criticizes player Y, tells him he's not doing enough and player sulks and doesn't do his job. I don't know the full ins and outs or what has been said so this may apply or not.

My dad was managed by Brian Clough, Cloughie called my dad out once and said "Listen son your not doing enough, you've been shite for weeks now" My dad spent 3 weeks cleaning boots and washing changing room floors.

I do the same we these egotistical wankers...Oh wait you cannot even criticize them now, they start fucking crying and act like bastard kids.

Man the fuck up.

haha Priceless mate!

Can you imagine it. Sarri phones Eden - Mate your fuckin heads not in the game. You need a reminder you wear a Chelsea shirt - you are cleaning boots till you remember it!

Millionare Edens going straight to his solicitor, leaking the story to the paper, go crying to Roman that he is being mistreated by the manager and he wants him sacking!!

Roman because he has no value in any manager picks up a phone to Granny Penny Pinscher saying get the revolving door oiled we need another!!

THAT is the new Chelsea for ya!!

Nobody connected to the club, owner,director,players OR FANS have any bollox!

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3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Form wise when was the last time Hazard played at a high level cor weeks on end? The first 7 games of the season?

The consistency doesnt exist? Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar all more consistent. That is a fact. In the last 4 seasons Eden fell completely off the map in 2 of them after being arguably the player of the year in title winning seasons. Or you going to tell me that is perfectly fucking normal? 😂

If Hazard was Willian this thread would be full of criticism every week, regardless of performances so I think there is a bit of biast in all fairness. If you are happy with Eden playing like this too fair enough 😂 I know I aint. Half arsed it for ages now except the Spurs game.

Also good to see youve actually acknowledged Costa and Cescs roles because others on here would soley just give Eden all the credit for those title winning seasons. 

No he didn't "fall of the map" in two of them.

The first of them he was playing through injury and last season he was playing some of his best football in his career for the first half of the season 

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

No he didn't "fall of the map" in two of them.

The first of them he was playing through injury and last season he was playing some of his best football in his career for the first half of the season 

Honestly? Last season except the first 3 months and a run of 5 games towards the end of the year he was again, very very ordinary. That season under Jose and Hiddink, injuries or whatever, when he actually played he was like a totally different player in a very bad way. When last seasons major turning point and big games came up when we were fighting to try and stay comfortable in top 4 he was poor like many (who got crucified every week regardless). Theres obviously issues with a huge chunk of the squad for inconsistentcy, not just Eden but he is a huge culprit, perhaps one of the biggest because when he plays at his best he is unplayable and it is unacceptable for the lack of effort he shows at times. Im not buying him playing as a false 9 as an excuse for when the going gets tough in terms of performancs or effort .

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39 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Honestly? Last season except the first 3 months and a run of 5 games towards the end of the year he was again, very very ordinary. That season under Jose and Hiddink, injuries or whatever, when he actually played he was like a totally different player in a very bad way. When last seasons major turning point and big games came up when we were fighting to try and stay comfortable in top 4 he was poor like many (who got crucified every week regardless). Theres obviously issues with a huge chunk of the squad for inconsistentcy, not just Eden but he is a huge culprit, perhaps one of the biggest because when he plays at his best he is unplayable and it is unacceptable for the lack of effort he shows at times. Im not buying him playing as a false 9 as an excuse for when the going gets tough in terms of performancs or effort .

The first six months I can cite the Atletico, Roma, United, West Brom, Newcastle and Atletico again performances that would all be in his overall top 20.

As for the injury season , he played through injury up until he finally cracked in December , Hiddink managed his recovery properly which eventually led to his recovery in form.

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