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DavidEU

10. Eden Hazard

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1 minute ago, The Skipper said:

Yeah I agree that it wasn’t fair for people to criticise Conte for it the first or second time around, but when you keep going back to the media and saying the same thing over and over again - as the manager it sets a sort of precedent/mentality in the squad. Amongst other repeated comments where he publically said CFC aren’t good enough several times, the mentality/tactical setups in must win games this season... I understand why he’s getting criticised for it. Sure, we didn’t have enough to seriously challenge this season but we should’ve had enough to finish top four, but Conte clearly doesn’t care like that anymore. 

If Eden came out repeatedly saying that “we need better players” throughout the season where we were actually fighting for a top four spot, sure, criticism would be fair. 

Eden’s been a bit more bold in the media recently though to be fair - he’s saying what we’re all thinking in a less brash way than Conte was, and he’s saying it at a less volatile time as well. 

Eded is basically telling the guys he works with they arent good enough for him to work with.

How would you feel if you was one of them? I'd be pissed wouldn't you? No matter how frustrated he felt or how much we all agree theres ways to say things eh. But they both want the same thing - maybe for different reasons, but just hope they get their wish.

Conte might have gone on but you know what those pre/post game interviews are like. They want blood when they smell it in the water, so they ask the questions, he answers them. Its a thankless job and a fine line from hero to zero.

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Hazard is our best players with Kante.

He is fully committed to the club, repeat many times he love the club and we can feel it.

After 6 seasons, he said again he don't care we have no UCL he is happy and ready to stay but only because he said he want better player it's a shame ?

Come on it's not a lack of respect for others players, players like Moses, Cahill, Alonso knows they are not top class player. Eden is a nice guys i'm pretty sur he has never had a fight with team mates not even rivals players. He don't stay he is angry because his teammates are shit but just a team like Chelsea need better recrues than Bakayoko, Drinkwater or Zappacosta and he has fucking right.

The guy knows he needs a different kind of football to express and shine.

He is not a Messi or Ronaldo, he is a dribbler,  one of the best dribbler in the world. So stop crying because he don't score 30 goals in a season because Salah make it one time.

He is a a different player in a different system. And it's obious to say if Hazard playing in team like City he would score many more goals.

When you have a player as talented as Hazard, when this player is a very nice guys, always smile, repeat he love this club, you should always be back him.

We see less of less this kind of mentality in football, he is a simple and humble person.

And even if is a flirt with Madrid because Real is his "dream child" who cares ? He has the right, he is not hypocritical to say Chelsea is his dream child but he learned to love this club.

How many players are really attach at our shirt now ?

Azpi for sur. Kante seem to be in right path. Christensen because is an academy player. Others like Rudiger will becoms in futur I hope.

If Madrid don't try to sign it, and we show amibitions I'm sur Eden would love finish his career for Chelsea. He should become a legend for us.

He has maybe not a leadership like lamps or Terry but we need commited players like that.

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9 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

But one thing is for sure: I'm happy here."

 

No you're not. Because if let's say, we don't bring anybody good in...would you sign da ting?

If you are happy here, you would sign the contract now instead of waiting. 

Unless you are trying to pressure the board in to signing good players and secretly sticking with Chelsea, then I forgive (well sorta, still need you to sign).

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4 hours ago, Tomo said:

He wants to win the CL before he retires, if we can only offer him a long shot at it he will consider his options regardless of how he feels for the club. He has nothing left to prove loyalty wise, he came here in the first place when he could have wrote his own cheque at any club in Europe AND given us 6 years of service, that is a ridiculously long time in the modern day, especially for someone who had no prior connection to us.

If that's the case, he should stop dilly-dallying, and leave us because this board is going to disappoint us again. We are putting faith on the useless Marina Granovskaia to deliver. 

We are light years away from winning the CL, especially that now EL is calling us next season.

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9 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Eded is basically telling the guys he works with they arent good enough for him to work with.

How would you feel if you was one of them? I'd be pissed wouldn't you? No matter how frustrated he felt or how much we all agree theres ways to say things eh. But they both want the same thing - maybe for different reasons, but just hope they get their wish.

Conte might have gone on but you know what those pre/post game interviews are like. They want blood when they smell it in the water, so they ask the questions, he answers them. Its a thankless job and a fine line from hero to zero.

Nah I’d agree with Eden that we need at least 3/4 top players if we want to seriously challenge for trophies again tbh pal. I’m sure most of the players would agree that the squad needs to be improved. 

Hazard hasn’t ever come out to say something like this tbh but personally, the board can’t continue to ignore stuff like this if it’s not just the manager, but our top players saying it as well. 

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7 hours ago, Tomo said:

He wants to win the CL before he retires, if we can only offer him a long shot at it he will consider his options regardless of how he feels for the club. He has nothing left to prove loyalty wise, he came here in the first place when he could have wrote his own cheque at any club in Europe AND given us 6 years of service, that is a ridiculously long time in the modern day, especially for someone who had no prior connection to us.

If he wants to win the CL before he retires, fair game to him and he should def move, but reckon he should've started off by playing better in CL. Right now prospect buyers might be looking back at his contribution in CL and thinking that there might be more suitable players and targets for that particular competition.

BTW, his interview sounds pretty bad to me. It's OK for him to think that and demand it from the club internally, but never OK to say it to the press. He's basically saying his current teammates aren't good enough to play with him, or some might hear that.

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5 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Nah I’d agree with Eden that we need at least 3/4 top players if we want to seriously challenge for trophies again tbh pal. I’m sure most of the players would agree that the squad needs to be improved. 

Hazard hasn’t ever come out to say something like this tbh but personally, the board can’t continue to ignore stuff like this if it’s not just the manager, but our top players saying it as well. 

So if you were in the team and Eden came out with this you wouldn't think he was talking about you then? He must be taling about someone else cause I know I'm shit hot!I

You know hat players egoes are like. I'm sure alot will be feeling upset shall I say!

It doesn't matter how much we all agree with him, we aren't in the team, we dont have to go out on the pitch in a good mood WANTING to win. And theres enough problems already without adding to them.

I THINK our problem is going to be buying the new players of a quality we NEED and can afford. Cause even getting rid of all the deadwood it wont give us the monety to bring in evev like for like.We need a substantial amount even for the 3 or 4 we need/would like.

Its not going to be sorted in one window is it?

I'm THINKING a new manager will be looking at a level or 2 down from the class we would all like us buying. but thats just my opinion.

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1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

So if you were in the team and Eden came out with this you wouldn't think he was talking about you then? He must be taling about someone else cause I know I'm shit hot!I

You know hat players egoes are like. I'm sure alot will be feeling upset shall I say!

It doesn't matter how much we all agree with him, we aren't in the team, we dont have to go out on the pitch in a good mood WANTING to win. And theres enough problems already without adding to them.

I THINK our problem is going to be buying the new players of a quality we NEED and can afford. Cause even getting rid of all the deadwood it wont give us the monety to bring in evev like for like.We need a substantial amount even for the 3 or 4 we need/would like.

Its not going to be sorted in one window is it?

I'm THINKING a new manager will be looking at a level or 2 down from the class we would all like us buying. but thats just my opinion.

Mate, in the previous summer Gary Cahill AND Azpilicueta were stressing the need for new players. You can look it up. Azpilicueta even went to the extent of saying that some of our replacement players might not be as good as the ones that left.

Its nothing new here. Players say stuff like this all the time. They're just clever in the way they say it, without naming anyone. Besides, I doubt any player bothers about what's said about them in the press, especially if its in indirect quotes.

You're clutching at straws here, I think.

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10 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Mate, in the previous summer Gary Cahill AND Azpilicueta were stressing the need for new players. You can look it up. Azpilicueta even went to the extent of saying that some of our replacement players might not be as good as the ones that left.

Its nothing new here. Players say stuff like this all the time. They're just clever in the way they say it, without naming anyone. Besides, I doubt any player bothers about what's said about them in the press, especially if its in indirect quotes.

You're clutching at straws here, I think.

I dunno bud. All I can say its how I THINK they would/SHOULD feel like.

If it was being talked like that at a Manc team say we would all be cracking up I know I would.

Its just another block being taken out of our Chelsea Jenga!!!

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On 16/05/2018 at 7:38 AM, Cosmin said:

I agree with what he said, but I am not sure if it's right to be said by him. 

 

I think it could ruffle a few feathers. Especially the new guys who were signed in the last year because it is in a way pointing to say last summers recruitment wasn't good enough. Although he is right to say we need good players in, anybody who thinks otherwise is nuts, but I think for him to say that publicly in the media is a bad move if it is picked up on by some of the players, I would imagine some people will be thinking "does he mean we need somebody better than me or player x or player y?" and I wouldnt be surprised if somebody took it to heart or takes offence. 

Conte having said about new players being needed earlier in the season it is a different story, a manager is a bigger and more authoritative role than being a players, he can say look hes not good enough get him out, or hes a good player but not as good as player X. 

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Seems the players must think the same way about Eden

“He’s a fantastic player. When he’s on his day he can be unstoppable,” said Fabregas of Hazard.

 

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1 hour ago, DYC. said:

Talk that talk. Finally some pressure on the suits. It doesn't matter if it comes from a manager. They're just passengers. But from your star man and most marketable player, that's something different.

It will be interesting to see how they respond (referring to their actions in the market this summer).

Scenes when they still don't give a shit and just sell him anyway. 

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Talk that talk. Finally some pressure on the suits. It doesn't matter if it comes from a manager. They're just passengers. But from your star man and most marketable player, that's something different.
It will be interesting to see how they respond (referring to their actions in the market this summer).
Don't see anyone getting the better of the board

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5 hours ago, Jason said:

Scenes when they still don't give a shit and just sell him anyway. 

Its gonna happen 

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11 hours ago, Jason said:

Scenes when they still don't give a shit and just sell him anyway. 

You just get the feeling that would be the case here. 😦

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