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10. Eden Hazard

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4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Is it not illegal for anyone to contact a player with years left on his contract? What the hell..

If he does go after Coutinho is sold for £140m we have to absolutely rinse Real Madrid. Have absolutely no clue how we'd replace him, though. Don't even wanna think about it.

We've got Barkley now. No worries!

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

We've got Barkley now. No worries!

Oh god...😩

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Just now, Pizy said:

Oh god...😩

Come to think of it, given our '1 IN, 1 OUT' policy, this might turn out to be the case! Buy Barkley, sell Hazard. OH GAWD!!

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Hazard improving in a more attacking side is just logical. Sure it's a hypothetical because he hasn't left us for one (yet) but it's based on logic. A more attacking side + more quality will no doubt help attacking players.
Especially if they've been playing for one of the most pragmatic top teams in the world before and still managed to perform at a high level.
 
.Because Hazard doesn't have a release clause. Hazard is our best player. Aslong as Hazard isn't pushing for a move himself i don't think we could be persuaded to sell for any kind of money. 
 
Now why hasn't he pushed for a move himself ? Well there are a number of reasons.
His personality is one. He's a laid back, family man type of guy. He's not a money grabbing a'hole. He's not a diva looking to be in the spotlights all the time.
There's also the fact that even if he'd push for the move it would still take a considerable amount of money to make it happen. Most teams don't have the money to buy Hazard.
He's also not interested in leaving to any other club but Real or Barcelona.(mostly Real though) PSG have been wanting Hazard for years but Hazard himself doesn't want to go back to the french league. 
The german and Italian leagues don't interest him at all. 
So the amount of clubs that can afford him and that Hazard would want to go to are just 2.
People can complain about wanting Hazard to be more ambitious but if Hazard were more ambitious i don't think he would have stayed with us for as long as he has.
About it affecting his game. Look people have different personalities. Not every football player in the world has to be as driven as Ronaldo to succeed. 
Hazard is who he is. His primary goal is to enjoy his football (his life). Considering he's making millions and is widely viewed as one of the top players in the world i'd say it's working for him.
 
Have you actually been watching us ? During and since the European Cup KDB has been the one who's been subdued while Hazard has been the one that performs.
KDB is actually going through a considerable goal drought for our NT. The last time he scored dates back to the 26th of march 2016 against Switserland before the EC.
20 games without a goal.  Hazard on the other hand has 8 goals and 9 assists in 16 games since the EC (including the EC)
 

True about the belgian part! 🤪 Eden pulled us through since two years now.

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Well I happen to think that Hazard improving in a more attacking side is just wrong and illogical  
why? Because the personal stats, the ones that count when comparing players at the top don’t necessarily increase and often actually decrease...
While the collective attacking output of an attacking side may be higher, the individual stats are divided amongst all attacking players! 
There are only so many assists to be made or only so many goals to be scored. Will a team double the number of goals by sticking a second striker up front? Won’t a single striker score more goals individually if being the focus of the team?
anyway, the (attacking) point is at the very least, debatable.
Yeah you gave me a: he’s a nice guy and loves Chelsea and his life and won’t force a move. Which for me is precisely the reason he will never really compete with the other top players. And I have to confess I don’t particularly buy it: when a top side really wants a player they ultimately get him. 
yes he could force a move like Coutinho is doing right now even when He plays well. It sucks but players do that all the time.
fair enough on the NT but I will refrain my judgement after Russia. 

After all these years .... 🤦🏻‍♂️

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2 hours ago, Jason said:

Come to think of it, given our '1 IN, 1 OUT' policy, this might turn out to be the case! Buy Barkley, sell Hazard. OH GAWD!!

I would say Willian will be the casualty if anyone.

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Sorry but I might upset some peeps here but Eden should have been banned for diving. That was no way in hell a penalty and an out n out dive.

Its my pet hate and I reckon no matter who does it they deserve either a ban by FA or the club.

It pissed me right off when Drogs did it and coulda shook Luiz warmly by the throat when he giggled like a schoolgirl on the floor.

Its only when the camera gets brought into play and players start getting a right bollocking that it will stop.

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2 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Sorry but I might upset some peeps here but Eden should have been banned for diving. That was no way in hell a penalty and an out n out dive.

Its my pet hate and I reckon no matter who does it they deserve either a ban by FA or the club.

It pissed me right off when Drogs did it and coulda shook Luiz warmly by the throat when he giggled like a schoolgirl on the floor.

Its only when the camera gets brought into play and players start getting a right bollocking that it will stop.

That was not a dive. There was clear touch but yes Hazard fell theatricaly. Still it was touch and penalty.

If hazard didnt fell so dramaticaly ref might not call for spot.

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Looks like our little magician is tired of the bullshit and likes to spend some time with world class players around him. We will definitely miss him and won't be able to replace him easily, if he is gonna be sold.

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8 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Sorry but I might upset some peeps here but Eden should have been banned for diving. That was no way in hell a penalty and an out n out dive.

Its my pet hate and I reckon no matter who does it they deserve either a ban by FA or the club.

It pissed me right off when Drogs did it and coulda shook Luiz warmly by the throat when he giggled like a schoolgirl on the floor.

Its only when the camera gets brought into play and players start getting a right bollocking that it will stop.

As much as I agree with you about diving, not sure that’d be a bookable offence.

retroactive bans for diving would solve the issue imo.

the difficult thing is that some dives aren’t really about gaining an advantage but for protection. It’s known that when being tackled it is a lot safer to not have your feet fully planted on the ground. Not in edens case here though as his foot was high up anyway.

The David luiz incident was not even a dive... he was laughing because the opponent lost his head and fouled him, which was desirable at the moment - we were ahead and also led to a red. Always thought ppl read that incorrectly as a dive.

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I only want eden hazard to leave this january transfer window.

just so I can watch the talkchelsea and chelsea fans meltdown on this forum.

plus all the other football fans will all come and view all chelsea forums to see how chelsea fans will react.

the talkchelsea servers will crash with all the traffic that will be happening once hazard leaves chelsea.

this forums servers won't be able to handle the traffic and pressure put on these servers.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Sorry but I might upset some peeps here but Eden should have been banned for diving. That was no way in hell a penalty and an out n out dive.

Its my pet hate and I reckon no matter who does it they deserve either a ban by FA or the club.

It pissed me right off when Drogs did it and coulda shook Luiz warmly by the throat when he giggled like a schoolgirl on the floor.

Its only when the camera gets brought into play and players start getting a right bollocking that it will stop.

Lol a dive is when someone simulates contact when there isn't any. Both in Luiz and Hazard's situations there was contact. 

It's really simple, Bellerin didn't get the ball and kicked Hazard on the inside of the foot. It's a penalty all day long. I don't care how hard or how soft it was. 

Contact = penalty. 

Honestly i don't get why people have such difficult time with this. 

 

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HAZARD REJECTS DEAL 

Chelsea's Eden Hazard has rejected a second contract offer amid Real Madrid interest, according to the Daily Star.

The Belgian’s current contract expires in 2020 and while the Blues want to tie him down to a longer deal, Hazard is stalling on committing as it is thought he is holding out for an offer from the La Liga club.

Think the paper should stick with tits n ass honk honk 

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16 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Sorry but I might upset some peeps here but Eden should have been banned for diving. That was no way in hell a penalty and an out n out dive.

Its my pet hate and I reckon no matter who does it they deserve either a ban by FA or the club.

It pissed me right off when Drogs did it and coulda shook Luiz warmly by the throat when he giggled like a schoolgirl on the floor.

Its only when the camera gets brought into play and players start getting a right bollocking that it will stop.

Do you know what an out and out dive is? You go down without contact, the likes of Ronaldo and Neymar are masters at that. Bellerin didn't get the ball, his foot was high and he kicked Eden's shin(?). He added some theatrics to the fall, but that isn't a dive when in principal it is a foul. If he had somehow managed to keep his balance, you can bet the ref wouldn't have given anything, when in reality the pen should have been given in spite of him falling or staying up. That's why players sometimes overreact, Gary Neville explained it well. WAS a foul, NOT a dive... even experts in sky studios agreed with that including an ex-referee.

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14 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

Lol a dive is when someone simulates contact when there isn't any. Both in Luiz and Hazard's situations there was contact. 

It's really simple, Bellerin didn't get the ball and kicked Hazard on the inside of the foot. It's a penalty all day long. I don't care how hard or how soft it was. 

Contact = penalty. 

Honestly i don't get why people have such difficult time with this. 

 

that's not correct: contact does not mean penalty or a foul and there is def diving even with contact. 

Contact happens all the time in football. By the rulebook contact does not equate foul, even though we hear it all the time. The question is always does the illegal contact (there is also legal contact e.g shoulder to shoulder) cause enough disruption to prevent the player from proceeding? If the answer is yes, then it is a PK or a foul, but if no, then it isn't and it could perhaps be a bookable offense if the ref thinks it's too blatant.

This is very difficult to assess esp live, and like I said, sometimes players protect themselves by jumping or falling.

With that out of the way, I kinda agree with you that it might have been a PK, even if a soft one. His foot was kicked in the air, and it might have been just enough to throw him off balance, which automatically makes it a non-bookable offence even if you think it's was dive (it prob wasn't).

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