Eden Hazard

[DanishBlue 426]

Omg, you should be grateful that we have Hazard. All clubs in the world would love to have him (beside Real Madrid and maybe 1 or 2 other clubs). There is a reason he wouldn't go for under 60-70 million. True, he is not the best player in the world, there are maybe 10-15 players better than him right now but that's not many.

[DH1988 1,193]

Time will tell but do I think Jose is the coach to make him number one in the world? No, do I think Jose will improve for our Chelsea team? Yes, he has already and will continue to.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Eden needs to make 3 or 4 more steps because this is not enough.

ABout Eden being better than Fabregas (and Fabregas is a great player but also far from a Ballon d'Or quality)... well... I think the one that needs to see more games of Chelsea is not me.

lol.

'This is not enough.' For who? You and your bullshit expectations? Think he is enough for pretty much every other Chelsea fan.

[sutro 1,026]

Time will tell but do I think Jose is the coach to make him number one in the world? No, do I think Jose will improve for our Chelsea team? Yes, he has already and will continue to.

and thats the most important thing in the end, i dont care much if Eden becomes the world greatest player.

We all just want that Chelsea becomes the world greatest club and for that we have the best coach and Hazard is just a part of it.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Lmao, again no-one is allowed to go against the opinion of Hazard

I actually agree with Rom2013 to an extent. Hazard is comparable to the best in the world, in terms of the talent he possess and we've seen enough of that to know this as a fact. But if he's going to be standing alongside Messi and Ronaldo in awards and recognition then there is another level Hazard must step-up to. All Rom2013 is saying, is that Hazard has room for improvement to be one of the top 3 in the world.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Hazard is not on the level of Messi and Ronaldo yet

[Weckerz 3,781]

Lmao, again no-one is allowed to go against the opinion of Hazard

I actually agree with Rom2013 to an extent. Hazard is comparable to the best in the world, in terms of the talent he possess and we've seen enough of that to know this as a fact. But if he's going to be standing alongside Messi and Ronaldo in awards and recognition then there is another level Hazard must step-up to. All Rom2013 is saying, is that Hazard has room for improvement to be one of the top 3 in the world.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Hazard is not on the level of Messi and Ronaldo yet

He was talking about the Chelsea team. Said the Hazard today is far from being Chelsea's best player. Stop bringing Messi or Ronaldo into the equation, they're leagues above the rest.

Saying he has to make 3-4 steps before being considered better than Cesc or Costa is absolutely ludicrous.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

He was talking about the Chelsea team. Said the Hazard today is far from being Chelsea's best player. Stop bringing Messi or Ronaldo into the equation, they're leagues above the rest.

Saying he has to make 3-4 steps before being considered better than Cesc or Costa is absolutely ludicrous.

Probably not 3-4 steps, but he's not our most important player right now. It's a valid argument. While his consistency has improved a lot this season, Hazard can do more to properly secure his place in our history, that will come with more experience with us, but if he wants to be our most important player then there is room for improvement. We all want Hazard to be our main guy, but he needs to be more imposing on games and show more genius when we're trying to break down tough opposition.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Omg, you should be grateful that we have Hazard. All clubs in the world would love to have him (beside Real Madrid and maybe 1 or 2 other clubs). There is a reason he wouldn't go for under 60-70 million. True, he is not the best player in the world, there are maybe 10-15 players better than him right now but that's not many.

Actually, Real want to sell Bale to fund a Hazard bid!

Won't happen though, if there's one thing a worldwide club with the backing of a billionaire doesn't need, it's money.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Probably not 3-4 steps, but he's not our most important player right now. It's a valid argument. While his consistency has improved a lot this season, Hazard can do more to properly secure his place in our history, that will come with more experience with us, but if he wants to be our most important player then there is room for improvement. We all want Hazard to be our main guy, but he needs to be more imposing on games and show more genius when we're trying to break down tough opposition.

I disagree. Think he's comfortably our most important player together with Cesc and Matic. Put any of these 3 out and we look a different (read: worse) team.

Edit: i don't think 'he can do more' is an argument btw.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I disagree. Think he's comfortably our most important player together with Cesc and Matic. Put any of these 3 out the team and we look a different (read: worse) team.

Yeah I agree with the last bit for sure. He 100% does add the quality to our side that we do need and he's shown that for us when he is imposing. But the consistency of being that sort of presence is something I think he can work on..

@lionsden and I had the discussion that it is perhaps our tactics that holds him back. He's more effective in sort bursts of pace and dribbling and perhaps his defensive burdens are

[sutro 1,026]

Lmao, again no-one is allowed to go against the opinion of Hazard

I actually agree with Rom2013 to an extent. Hazard is comparable to the best in the world, in terms of the talent he possess and we've seen enough of that to know this as a fact. But if he's going to be standing alongside Messi and Ronaldo in awards and recognition then there is another level Hazard must step-up to. All Rom2013 is saying, is that Hazard has room for improvement to be one of the top 3 in the world.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Hazard is not on the level of Messi and Ronaldo yet

but everyone here agrees on that mate, no one said that he's on that level and he has a very long way to go to reach that and most likely never will reach it.

The discussion we are having was never about that also, rom said that he was far from the level of cesc and costa and to me thats not true at all, when you say things like that you are simply looking at the stats without watching the actual games and even then Hazard still has 9goals and 8 assists in 24 games.

[Polo7 3,496]

Hazard imo is definitely one of the most important players. But Im sick of people being told they are wrong on these forums. Not everyone has to agree with your opinions!

[DYC. 7,542]

Lmao, again no-one is allowed to go against the opinion of Hazard

I actually agree with Rom2013 to an extent. Hazard is comparable to the best in the world, in terms of the talent he possess and we've seen enough of that to know this as a fact. But if he's going to be standing alongside Messi and Ronaldo in awards and recognition then there is another level Hazard must step-up to. All Rom2013 is saying, is that Hazard has room for improvement to be one of the top 3 in the world.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Hazard is not on the level of Messi and Ronaldo yet

The whole comparison to Cristiano and Messi needs to stop though. He's not as outrageously talented as Messi, of course he's quite the talent himself, neither does he possess CR's ridiculous goal-sense. Not only did they achieve a lot more at Hazard's age, they went on to improve to a level people didn't think was possible (on a consistent basis). And that doesn't just go for Hazard but any new/hot talent. To be compared to them, you actually have to prove it by playing at that level for years like they have.

Completely disagree with the notion on him not being among Chelsea's best players this season. Are you kidding me? Everybody is allowed to have they're opinion, definitely. But if I say Kroos and Modric have been a lot better than Ronaldo this season, I don't sound right. I mean, be serious.

My memory with these kind of things is not the best, but in 22 starts, Hazard has had like what.. 3, maybe 4 bad games? 8-10 great games and 7-9 good games. He's been fantastic this season. Add a bunch of goals and assists to his game right now, and he's a top 5 player. Aguero is the only player above him in the league this season imo. You could argue for Cesc and Matic, or even Alexis. But Hazard has been the better player for me, Alexis just stands out more because of his underperforming team mates. He's been one of the better performers in the group stages of the CL as well.

Could he score more goals? Sure, and I still expect him to score around 15 goals from open play this season. But 9 goals in 22 starts is anything but a poor return. More assists from Eden? Definitely. This is a area he's been surprisingly ineffective in. A player of his calibre and his style of play should be providing more assists. But even though goals and assists are important, they don't define the quality of the performances. I'm convinced the likes Nedved and Figo would not receive half the praise they used to get by the majority of today.

The great thing about Hazard is how there's still plenty of room for improvement and I'm convinced he'll continue to raise his game. Looking at his time at Chelsea, you can see how he keeps progressing with every passing season. Becoming a superstar at this age is a rarity. Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Suarez, Robben, Ribery, Xavi, Iniesta, David Silva, Yaya Toure, Tevez, Schweinsteiger, Fabregas, Modric... you look at that list of players, which player was at Hazard's level at 23? Fabregas is probably the only one (you could argue for Iniesta and Rooney). That's amazing. And then think about how much they improved after 23. Eden can become some player.

It's time for a big moment though. Like a memorable performance in the quarter/semi finals of the CL. That's the one thing he lacks right now.

[Leif 6,006]

The day a winger is the most important player in a side is the day pigs fly. (C'mon, quote this with a 1-worded reply like "Figo" or something and collect your likes)

[Kieran. 6,317]

The day a winger is the most important player in a side is the day pigs fly. (C'mon, quote this with a 1-worded reply like "Figo" or something and collect your likes)

Figo

[Madmax 9,219]

Figo

Dammit. Collect your like, you filthy animal.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

This dude is on fire, hope he could put another great performance against Stoke.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h89-lBR-Lpg

Need one of these performances tomorrow.