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DavidEU

10. Eden Hazard

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11 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Yup there was defense and then Eden and then nothing. 

Honestly after seeing today game, I expect Eden to leave if this is the way we go against top teams. He had ZERO support. City had not only Silva and DeBruyne, but Jesus, Sane, even Fernandinho and BOTH fullbacks coming up and linking. Eden was only with Morata and after the sub he was alone. I guess thats down to Conte because against Atletico, we were linking much better.

We linked well against Atletico because they allowed us to. If they tried to play we would have resorted to the usual shit on a stick football. That win has really misled a lot of fans and pundits and made them forget what this team is really about. The Arsenal game wasn't even that long ago.

Can you even imagine how good Hazard would be if he was playing for that City team yesterday?

Honestly, knowing how good he is and what he can be I hope he leaves in the summer. Don't waste your prime years on low block, 25% possession teams would be my advice.

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22 minutes ago, Jason said:

One bad loss and suddenly people are losing their mind over Hazard. <_<

Thing is, it's not just one bad loss in a vacuum. It's a game that highlights the gulf in quality and ambition between the two clubs.

One team playing stylish, slick football  from the future. Another team playing football from the 70s. That was complete and utter domination.

Hazard is one of the calmest players and never shows his frustration but he did yesterday on several occasions. He really needs to start using the credit he has built up and demand more before signing a new deal.

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7 minutes ago, Styles said:

Thing is, it's not just one bad loss in a vacuum. It's a game that highlights the gulf in quality and ambition between the two clubs.

One team playing stylish, slick football  from the future. Another team playing football from the 70s. That was complete and utter domination.

Yes, I get the difference in playing style but why wait till one loss to vent all these frustrations? It's hardly a secret that we've been playing pragmatic football with the occasional brilliance for the last decade or so. So why are people acting all surprise by the lack of quality shown in games like yesterday?

10 minutes ago, Styles said:

Hazard is one of the calmest players and never shows his frustration but he did yesterday on several occasions. He really needs to start using the credit he has built up and demand more before signing a new deal.

If you believe the latest rumours, he's set to sign a 300k p/w contract and become the highest paid player in the Premier League after the international break.

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3 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

 

Don't mean to be critical but when you see him score that first goal, you just wonder why he doesn't it more often. Going by his unselfish tendency, you would think he would have passed to the player on the right but no, he went on to shoot and score.

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7 hours ago, Jason said:

Don't mean to be critical but when you see him score that first goal, you just wonder why he doesn't it more often. Going by his unselfish tendency, you would think he would have passed to the player on the right but no, he went on to shoot and score.

For the past five seasons Mourinho and Conte have urged him to develop that side in his game and I think we are finally starting to see it in his game more and more. For instance, against Atletico he seemed really keen on scoring and far more selfish that usually. 

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7 hours ago, Jason said:

Don't mean to be critical but when you see him score that first goal, you just wonder why he doesn't it more often. Going by his unselfish tendency, you would think he would have passed to the player on the right but no, he went on to shoot and score.

Understand what you mean but i think this has already been discussed here several times over the last few years. If he doesn't have clear angle at goal he doesn't take the shot. He simply doesn't take low percentage shots.

 

I'm sure if he took more shots he'd score more . 

Last season

Hazard shot 77 times , 36 appearances, 16 goals 

Ronaldo shot 162 times ,29 appearances , 25 goals

Messi shot 165 times, 36 appearances , 34 goals

If Hazard took twice the shots he's taken i'm sure he would be getting closer to 25 goals.

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1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said:

Understand what you mean but i think this has already been discussed here several times over the last few years. If he doesn't have clear angle at goal he doesn't take the shot. He simply doesn't take low percentage shots.

 

I'm sure if he took more shots he'd score more . 

Last season

Hazard shot 77 times , 36 appearances, 16 goals 

Ronaldo shot 162 times ,29 appearances , 25 goals

Messi shot 165 times, 36 appearances , 34 goals

If Hazard took twice the shots he's taken i'm sure he would be getting closer to 25 goals.

Hazard simply isnt as clinical as Messi or CR, but at the very least he would definately score more in spain tho. 

Suarez is nice example, he scored 10 more goals in single season compared to his best tally in PL. Ronaldo is obvious another example if you compare his PL and Laliga outputs. 

But again, both Surez and Cr scored 30 in PL, compared to Eden 17, I guess he would be around 20 goals in laliga at least.

But Im still not sure why the hell people want Eden to score more. Its not what defines a quality player. CR and Messi completely fucked up the balon dor with all those goals, sure they are fantastic, but they are exception, not rule. Eden is magnificent dribbler, playmaker, good passer and almost never loses the ball. All those are as important as goals in games. Its what makes team tick. Then you have Kantes. Those players do the job so CRs and Messis can even score the goals. Without such players no team would win anything. 

Yet the focus is only on goals and goalscorers everytime. Heck even Ramos is ranked as one of best defenders because he scores crucial goals lol. Glad its slowly changing with Neuer being recognized, with Kante being rewarded etc

I understand media trying to blow the shit out of everything and praise trademark players ala CR to god status, but in forums like this with people who actualy watch football every weekend, why some still focus and talk about Eden needing to score more etc. Football is bigger than just those goals and every fan should know it. 

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6 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

Understand what you mean but i think this has already been discussed here several times over the last few years. If he doesn't have clear angle at goal he doesn't take the shot. He simply doesn't take low percentage shots.

Nobody is asking him to do a Sturridge and start shooting from ridiculous position/angle or when the chance isn't on. It's just how many times have we seen him get into a good position to score but opt to pass it instead? It's unlikely he'll ever reach the goal scoring numbers of Messi, Ronaldo etc but do feel he can score more goals than he usually does. He has always scored around 15 goals per season. Should be aiming at getting 20-25 at least.

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