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[Vesper 27,282]

8 hours ago, manpe said:

Who is the white-haired guy? 

Mike Pence, the Vice President. He is the religious RW nutter who calls his wife Mother, and refuses to be in a room alone with any woman because Satan may tempt him to sin.

 

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

He is the religious RW nutter who calls his wife Mother, and refuses to be in a room alone with any woman because Satan may tempt him to sin.

Wtf, is that true?  It looks like asylum patients are running the White House.

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8 hours ago, Vesper said:

nutter who calls his wife Mother, and refuses to be in a room alone with any woman because Satan may tempt him to sin

Tell me your taking the piss here Vesper? That shit has nothing to do with Lucifer, its his own lust he is scared of.......he is nothing but a mouth-piece anyway.

[Vesper 27,282]

9 hours ago, manpe said:

Wtf, is that true?  It looks like asylum patients are running the White House.

These Mike Pence Quotes About Karen Are A Little Uncomfortable

https://www.elitedaily.com/p/these-mike-pence-quotes-about-karen-are-a-little-uncomfortable-9012880

These days when we're not spending an inappropriate amount of time dissecting the relationships of reality TV couples, we're taking a deep dive into the marriage of President Donald Trump and Melania Trump. But there's another presidential couple that deserves some of our attention, and that's Vice President Mike Pence and his wife Karen Pence. These Mike Pence quotes about Karen Pence prove they're close, but also make me just a little uncomfortable.

Personally, I have come to associate Karen with some pretty, uh, interesting Pence quotes. Most of which the public hasn't always been a fan of. The way Pence talks about his wife shows that the two have a very close relationship, but I'd be a little hesitant to call it romantic. Then again, romance is in the eye of the beholder, I guess?

It's been 'round the rumor mill that Pence calls his wife "Mother," or "Mother, Mother" if we're being technical, according to a 2017 profile of the second lady in Rolling Stone. As the story goes, while Pence was serving as the governor of Indiana he hosted a dinner for the Democratic minority. According to unnamed sources, it was there that they heard Pence refer to his wife as "Mother."

He reportedly asked, directed at Karen, "Mother, Mother, who prepared our meal this evening?" Then later on asked Karen, "Mother, Mother, whose china are we eating on?"

So, that's weird, right? I mean, it sounds like a nursery rhyme and could have been a joke, but even jokingly referring to your wife as "mother" is pretty odd, especially when there are guests around.

Needless to say, Pence's guests were not having it. According to Rolling Stone, the legislators just looked at each other across the table and kind of gave a look that said, "Uh, did he just call his wife 'Mother'?" Awkward.

Maybe the Pence family just, um, plays by their own rules. They are very close.

During a 2013 interview as Pence was gearing up to move into the governor's residence in Indiana, the now vice president was very loving towards Karen. "She's the best part of my life," he said. "Everything we do in public life, we do together. I can't imagine it any other way."

Well no one knew just how far that extended until a 2017 Washington Post profile of Karen brought to the surface some rules that the couple has. It went pretty viral at the time, and with good reason.

In that 2017 profile, it surfaced that in 2002, way before Pence was anywhere near the White House, he told The Hill that he would never dine alone with a woman who is not his wife, and that he also won't go to events with alcohol if his wife is not with him. Of course, the public did not take that well. As a politician, I am sure, there are times when he would need to meet with female lawmakers, but if he won't do that, then are women getting passed over? Also, why is the rule in place? Does his wife not trust him? Does he not trust himself? It seems... odd, and more than a little antiquated.

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4 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Tell me your taking the piss here Vesper? That shit has nothing to do with Lucifer, its his own lust he is scared of.......he is nothing but a mouth-piece anyway.

I am an atheist

there is no satan nor god in my worldview

Pence is a psychotic born-again RW xian

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Radical Christian Militia To Escort Trump In Minneapolis

https://www.joemygod.com/2019/10/radical-christian-militia-to-escort-trump-in-minneapolis/

Newsweek reports:

Republicans at President Donald Trump’s rally in Minneapolis on Thursday will reportedly be escorted by a typically heavily armed group that has been called “one of the largest radical anti-government groups in the U.S. today.” That is how the SPLC describes the Oath Keepers, who refer to themselves as “guardians of the republic.”

On the group’s website, it describes itself as a “non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders, who pledge to fulfill the oath all military and police take to ‘defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.'”

Oath Keepers showed up heavily armed at protests in Ferguson, Missouri. Oath Keepers formed in 2009 after Barack Obama was elected president.

The Oath Keepers first appeared on JMG several years ago when they offered to protect now-former Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis from being arrested again. Their offer was declined by the Liberty Counsel, an anti-LGBT hate group representing Davis.

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9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I am an atheist

there is no satan nor god in my worldview

Pence is a psychotic born-again RW xian

They all fucking horrible man...clowns and liers. Dont trust criminals.

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On 09/10/2019 at 8:20 PM, Atomiswave said:

What a disgusting move by Turkey.......if I were Assad I would fire missiles right onto Turkey.

Turkey is NATO

all of NATO would be treaty-bound to parking lot the country (Syria)

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14 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Turkey is NATO

all of NATO would be treaty-bound to parking lot the country (Syria)

Yeah I know mate, been there for 6 years ( Nato ). Still does not mean other countries have to follow suit. If its the wrong move then they wont do shit regarding joining in. THis was a bad move by Erdogan, one he may come to regret. Iran and Russia is still in Syria. You cant just attack and invade part of a country just cuz you believe there is a security risk ( there aint none ). Kurds have no power to fuck Turkey up, if anything kurds inside Turkey are a much higher risk. Its BS is what it is mate, and it could easily escalate if Assad fires back.

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45 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Yeah I know mate, been there for 6 years ( Nato ). Still does not mean other countries have to follow suit. If its the wrong move then they wont do shit regarding joining in. THis was a bad move by Erdogan, one he may come to regret. Iran and Russia is still in Syria. You cant just attack and invade part of a country just cuz you believe there is a security risk ( there aint none ). Kurds have no power to fuck Turkey up, if anything kurds inside Turkey are a much higher risk. Its BS is what it is mate, and it could easily escalate if Assad fires back.

Turkey has been in NATO since 1952

The Cuban Missile Crisis was over the US deployment of PGM-19 Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey (and Italy) so the Союз Советских Социалистических Республик (CCCP aka USSR) retaliated by trying to put R-14 Chusovaya nukes in Cuba

 

As for the other NATO countries not doing anything, au contraire. The key section of the treaty is Article 5. Its commitment clause defines the casus foederis. It commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state, in Europe or North America, to be an armed attack against them all.

Collective defence - Article 5

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

The principle of collective defence is at the very heart of NATO’s founding treaty. It remains a unique and enduring principle that binds its members together, committing them to protect each other and setting a spirit of solidarity within the Alliance.

 

Article 5

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Turkey has been in NATO since 1952

The Cuban Missile Crisis was over the US deployment of PGM-19 Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey (and Italy) so the Союз Советских Социалистических Республик (CCCP aka USSR) retaliated by trying to put R-14 Chusovaya nukes in Cuba

 

As for the other NATO countries not doing anything, au contraire. The key section of the treaty is Article 5. Its commitment clause defines the casus foederis. It commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state, in Europe or North America, to be an armed attack against them all.

Collective defence - Article 5

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

The principle of collective defence is at the very heart of NATO’s founding treaty. It remains a unique and enduring principle that binds its members together, committing them to protect each other and setting a spirit of solidarity within the Alliance.

 

Article 5

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .

 

 

 

 

Yeah but this time its  Nato member attacking....and not the other way around. You cant just attack another country just cause you feel like it or on shady basis and then expect your friends will come helping. It doesnt work like that, and certainly not now. If Assad fires back then Nato will swiftly try to find a solution for Peace, and not immediately join the fight and bombard Syria........if it escalates after that then yes you are right. WHats written in a piece of paper is one thing, joining a war that likely will show to be a big mistake is another. They will try to solve it first, then act if needed......anything other and its bad for business and rep. Thats my experience anyway.

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1 hour ago, Atomiswave said:

Yeah but this time its  Nato member attacking....and not the other way around. You cant just attack another country just cause you feel like it or on shady basis and then expect your friends will come helping. It doesnt work like that, and certainly not now. If Assad fires back then Nato will swiftly try to find a solution for Peace, and not immediately join the fight and bombard Syria........if it escalates after that then yes you are right. WHats written in a piece of paper is one thing, joining a war that likely will show to be a big mistake is another. They will try to solve it first, then act if needed......anything other and its bad for business and rep. Thats my experience anyway.

The US attacks the shit out of other nations for no legal reason, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc etc etc.

NATO wont do shit to stop them, hell they HELP.

 

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[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

Wouldn't be surprised if theres a disruption, political stunt at the Turkey v Albania game tonight

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Tice is such a pure CUNT.

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On 12/10/2019 at 0:42 PM, Vesper said:

Tice is such a pure CUNT.

Hassan had him  in a headlock  

Agree about Tice. Left his wife and kids for that whatsherface, posh twat that wrote Camerons bio ? A biography saying Cameron put his cock in a dead pig. Just your typical upper class tradition I suppose