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[Fernando 6,374]

The UN just passed a resolution censuring Israel — and a US abstention made it possible

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/un-resolution-israel-settlements-us-obama-trump-2016-12

 

To me the United Nothing are a joke. That's what they are a nothing, because they pass and pass resolution and don't make any meaningful impact. 

I mean look at their supposed peace negotiations in Syria with Aleppo and such. They are a total joke! 

[Fernando 6,374]

See I told you guys that the UN is nothing but anti Israeli. 

There's much worse thing going on the world, their fail attempt to control Syria, and all they care is to hurt Israel. 

But then again we shouldn't be appalled. This was prophesied in the bible. 

The bible talked about one day Israel becoming a nation, and it did. Then it mentioned how the whole world will turn against them and we see it by the UN as being representative all the nations leader. 

Bible prophecy is coming to pass, the only book with what is about to happen in the future. 

 

 

 

 

 

[cosmicway 1,246]

Was this talked over with Donald ?
More likely than not it was.
But what will happen ?
One possibility is give territory to the Pals who undeniably have been treated unfairly for a long time.
But what will become of this territory ? ISIS hideouts ? Rocket launchers ?
Nothing seems to work.

 

 

[Peace. 4,352]

8 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Was this talked over with Donald ?
More likely than not it was.
But what will happen ?

 

That is the thing : Dahnald was not involved in this because because Super President Barack Obama set a "trap" (might not be the best word) to him. I am not sure whether this resolution will have a lot of consequences for Israel ; they have already disregarded something like 37 resolutions that were voted against them in regards to Palestine, why would it change now ?

However, it could place Dahnald's administration within a lot of trouble even before he has set a foot in the White House — as president, that is. No matter which way you look at it and no matter what he does, he will be regarded as a villain.

Indeed, there are two options unfolding in front of him : either he backs-up Israel or he does nothing.

If he opts for the former solution, then he would publicly go against the UN. It is not like it was a problem in itself for the US — they did not take gloves to bypass the UN in order to destroy Iraq. The problem lies in the fact the "political correctness" is the cornerstone of the US ideology. You can destroy a country as long as you call it "bringing democracy" ; you can enslave someone as long as you call it "giving him a flexible job" ; you can send armament, ammunition and food supplies to terrorists as long as you call them "rebels", "freedom fighters" or "opposition to the regime" ; etc..., you do get my point.

But in this situation, if Dahnald chooses to back-up Israel against the UN, he will not have the luxury to resort to political correctness. And even if he had the possibility, he would not do it as he is too blunt and not enough malicious and sly for that. He will thus be viewed as the "bad" president that supports the "bad" State of Israel against the the "good" UN and the "poor" and "innocent" Palestinians. As a consequence, his position — in terms of diplomacy and of legitimacy — will be weakened  both worldwide and within his country.

Yet if he chooses to do nothing, he will compromise the good relations between the US and Israel — which is the most capital US ally. And thus, once again, his position will be inevitably weakened. It is a lose-lose situation for him and he cannot come out of this unscratched.

That being said, I view this more as a storm in a glass of water than anything else. When Dahnald will take his sit in the office, this story will probably be long foregone.

On a beside note, you can only be left "admirative" towards the slyness displayed by Super President Barack Obama — his rotten personality knows no bounds. He did that solely because this little man is obsessed with his own legacy and because, as his Democrate fellows, he is a sore loser. To the general public and especially to the twitter activist, Supa Obama will appear as the Champion of the Good doing his last good deed as US president... But in reality, this "good" deed will change nothing for the Palestinian and will only put the US — his country — in a perilous situation.

Not that it bothers me as I cannot say I have a lot of compassion towards this country — this is a huge euphemism —, yet I find people like him despicable to the highest point.

[Fernando 6,374]

15 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Was this talked over with Donald ?
More likely than not it was.
But what will happen ?
One possibility is give territory to the Pals who undeniably have been treated unfairly for a long time.
But what will become of this territory ? ISIS hideouts ? Rocket launchers ?
Nothing seems to work.

 

 

Nothing ever will work. 

The Bible state that a world leader coined the anti christ will establish a 7 year peace treaty with Israel and all those nations around them. 

This will enable the Jews to build their third temple but this peace will only last for 3 and half years and this world leader will in turn against the treaty and try to destroy the Jews. 

So as far that goes that 7 year peace treaty is going to be the only time it ever works but it will only last a short period of time. 

And you know why? Because of the hatred for the Jews. Anti semetism has no inteligent reasoning other than being a strong hatred being influenced by an outside entity. This outside entity will finally be manifested in this world leader known as the anti christ. 

With the world turning against Israel as you are seeing it, it makes no sense. The hatred is absurd, and you can see it. There are worse atrocity being committed by other countries like Syria, Venezuela and such but it's all about Israel. 

Just like the Bible Prophecy many thousands of years ago, many events are unfolding. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,381]

 

[cosmicway 1,246]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Nothing ever will work. 

The Bible state that a world leader coined the anti christ will establish a 7 year peace treaty with Israel and all those nations around them. 

This will enable the Jews to build their third temple but this peace will only last for 3 and half years and this world leader will in turn against the treaty and try to destroy the Jews. 

So as far that goes that 7 year peace treaty is going to be the only time it ever works but it will only last a short period of time. 

And you know why? Because of the hatred for the Jews. Anti semetism has no inteligent reasoning other than being a strong hatred being influenced by an outside entity. This outside entity will finally be manifested in this world leader known as the anti christ. 

With the world turning against Israel as you are seeing it, it makes no sense. The hatred is absurd, and you can see it. There are worse atrocity being committed by other countries like Syria, Venezuela and such but it's all about Israel. 

Just like the Bible Prophecy many thousands of years ago, many events are unfolding. 

 

There will be an antichrist.
I don't know about the 7 years and the 3 1/2 years your text says, but an antichrist we are going to have, yes sireee.
Already, the state knows all about you.
The 25 pence in your piggy bank.
That valuable mantle piece from old Italy in your living room.
And much more.
So you just wait for the peoples' inspectors to arrive.

One thing most folks seem to have got wrong is that big brother follows your politics.
But not any more. They would n't give a pair of tart's old knickers for your beliefs.
You read about the Moscow trials in books and you say "how brave those dissenters were - that's what I 'm going to be like when they drag me tomorrow and I will be all over the press".
Poppycock.
Just go for a stroll to the big brother central criminal courts. It's "bang-bang, take him away, next one".
All over the press indeed !

For now the system is money-money-money in the rich man's world (for the socialist comrades).
Our bright future is in zyklon gas chambers, after they have taken away our teeth and hair.

With electronics replacing everything tomorrow, money will inevitably go away.
This seems to be the natural conclusion.
The socialist comrades will then start raping the Bolshoi ballet girls, like they were doing back in the USSR.
Next and finally the antichrist will get them too, but in what precisely way we don't know yet (they know this but they don't care because it's far into the future).

[Fernando 6,374]

21 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

 

There will be an antichrist.
I don't know about the 7 years and the 3 1/2 years your text says, but an antichrist we are going to have, yes sireee.
Already, the state knows all about you.
The 25 pence in your piggy bank.
That valuable mantle piece from old Italy in your living room.
And much more.
So you just wait for the peoples' inspectors to arrive.

One thing most folks seem to have got wrong is that big brother follows your politics.
But not any more. They would n't give a pair of tart's old knickers for your beliefs.
You read about the Moscow trials in books and you say "how brave those dissenters were - that's what I 'm going to be like when they drag me tomorrow and I will be all over the press".
Poppycock.
Just go for a stroll to the big brother central criminal courts. It's "bang-bang, take him away, next one".
All over the press indeed !

For now the system is money-money-money in the rich man's world (for the socialist comrades).
Our bright future is in zyklon gas chambers, after they have taken away our teeth and hair.

With electronics replacing everything tomorrow, money will inevitably go away.
This seems to be the natural conclusion.
The socialist comrades will then start raping the Bolshoi ballet girls, like they were doing back in the USSR.
Next and finally the antichrist will get them too, but in what precisely way we don't know yet (they know this but they don't care because it's far into the future).

Yes its a 7 peace treaty between Israel and many nations around them. 

Look men, Israel was never supposed to exist, but it's here. Just like the bible predicted. 

No nation in the entire history of the world has ever come back after ceasing to be a nation for more then a 1,000 years.

That was predicted by the bible.

And then no nation in the world now attracts so much hate, discussion as Israel now despite other nations doing worse as just mentioned like Syria.

Again that was predicted in the bible.

So I'm no genius but if the bible has gotten right so far with this modern events with Israel I don't think it will be wrong when it says a 7 year peace treaty will come. And the Jewish people will be allowed to build their temple.

Build their temple seems impossible, but I don't know how it will happen but it will when this great world leader comes to the scene. 

[cosmicway 1,246]

12 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yes its a 7 peace treaty between Israel and many nations around them. 

Look men, Israel was never supposed to exist, but it's here. Just like the bible predicted. 

No nation in the entire history of the world has ever come back after ceasing to be a nation for more then a 1,000 years.

That was predicted by the bible.

And then no nation in the world now attracts so much hate, discussion as Israel now despite other nations doing worse as just mentioned like Syria.

Again that was predicted in the bible.

So I'm no genius but if the bible has gotten right so far with this modern events with Israel I don't think it will be wrong when it says a 7 year peace treaty will come. And the Jewish people will be allowed to build their temple.

Build their temple seems impossible, but I don't know how it will happen but it will when this great world leader comes to the scene. 

 

To be more precise and up to date about the new system it goes like this:
Money disappears and is replaced by electronic points, exchangeable only among the members of the elit.
The rest will perish and even if we survive for a while we will certainly not reproduce.
So the world's population is to be limited to 800 mil - 1 bil, during antichrist's rule.

This cannot be achieved with the traditional communist system. For the communist system whatever else may be true about it, is pledged to full employment (of sorts).
It cannot be achieved with the traditional capitalist system either, because the free market tends to create full employment by itself.
So a new system has been devised, based on the coalescence of the old reds and blacks.
 

 

[Fernando 6,374]

13 hours ago, cosmicway said:

 

To be more precise and up to date about the new system it goes like this:
Money disappears and is replaced by electronic points, exchangeable only among the members of the elit.
The rest will perish and even if we survive for a while we will certainly not reproduce.
So the world's population is to be limited to 800 mil - 1 bil, during antichrist's rule.

This cannot be achieved with the traditional communist system. For the communist system whatever else may be true about it, is pledged to full employment (of sorts).
It cannot be achieved with the traditional capitalist system either, because the free market tends to create full employment by itself.
So a new system has been devised, based on the coalescence of the old reds and blacks.
 

 

Check out the even absurdity of the UN:

More than 500,000 Jews live in about 140 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The settlements are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38450424

 

This does not even makes sense. Israel won that land in a war. How many other countries have won land in war and the UN never made a fuss about it? For example Peru took land from Ecuador years ago and nothing ever happens. 

As you see bible prophecy must come to pass where it says the whole world will turn against Israel and be fixated on Jerusalem. 

There is no logical reason to be this fixated on Jerusalem then in other countries, but only by an outside entity as the bible prophesied. 

We are getting closer and closer to the start of that 7 year peace treaty I spoke to you.  And the world leader that will deceive the whole world into taking his mark and worship him as god is coming. 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Well this thread went full crazy on this last page!  Thanks for the reminder though of the devastating lunacy of Christian extremism...

 

Regarding the UN resolution, the funny part is that it's actually more pro-Israel than pro Palestinian. The resolution condemns both the settlements as well as the Palestinian resistance. It basically equates occupation with the resistance to it. The resolution doesn't propose a punishment if/when Israel continues to build the settlements that break international law, it's own treaties and sometimes even its own laws! It's basically just saying

- "hey, maybe you should try to abide by international law and stop down that which literally all the countries on earth say is illegal!"

- "You  fucking antisemite!"

 

Regarding Obama, I despise his guts, he gets away with murder (literally) because of his "charisma" but the actual criticism he gets is just mind boggling and his relation with Israel is prime example. This resolution was the first one that the UN has passed on Israel-Palestine for 8 years. 8 years because the Obama administration has been blocking every resolution on Israel-Palestine in the UN for 8 years against official US policy. An almost identical resolution has passed in the UN under every single US president since the 70s, but of course it is the president who gave Israel 38 billion dollars, more than anything any country has ever received in history, gets criticized as 'anti-Israel'  No US president in history has EVER been more pro-Israel than Obama. Even before he became president, in his time as senator, he only ever wrote a a single bill: during the Israeli assault on Lebanon in 2006 he wrote a bill to emergency rearm Israel so they can continue their indiscriminate bombings and war crimes.

[Fernando 6,374]

30 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Well this thread went full crazy on this last page!  Thanks for the reminder though of the devastating lunacy of Christian extremism...

 

Regarding the UN resolution, the funny part is that it's actually more pro-Israel than pro Palestinian. The resolution condemns both the settlements as well as the Palestinian resistance. It basically equates occupation with the resistance to it. The resolution doesn't propose a punishment if/when Israel continues to build the settlements that break international law, it's own treaties and sometimes even its own laws! It's basically just saying

- "hey, maybe you should try to abide by international law and stop down that which literally all the countries on earth say is illegal!"

- "You  fucking antisemite!"

 

Regarding Obama, I despise his guts, he gets away with murder (literally) because of his "charisma" but the actual criticism he gets is just mind boggling and his relation with Israel is prime example. This resolution was the first one that the UN has passed on Israel-Palestine for 8 years. 8 years because the Obama administration has been blocking every resolution on Israel-Palestine in the UN for 8 years against official US policy. An almost identical resolution has passed in the UN under every single US president since the 70s, but of course it is the president who gave Israel 38 billion dollars, more than anything any country has ever received in history, gets criticized as 'anti-Israel'  No US president in history has EVER been more pro-Israel than Obama. Even before he became president, in his time as senator, he only ever wrote a a single bill: during the Israeli assault on Lebanon in 2006 he wrote a bill to emergency rearm Israel so they can continue their indiscriminate bombings and war crimes.

And the whole earth are showing their bias. 

Because just like Israel won the land because of war, so have many countries in the past won land because of war and the UN does not declare Illegal on all those other countries. 

Only Israel.....

The double standard is amazing. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,381]

More than 500,000 Jews live in about 140 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The settlements are considered illegal under international law.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

And the whole earth are showing their bias. 

Because just like Israel won the land because of war, so have many countries in the past won land because of war and the UN does not declare Illegal on all those other countries. 

Only Israel.....

The double standard is amazing. 

Yeah, sure, every single nation on earth is biased against Israel...

OR MAYBE, just maybe, anyone who doesn't have irrational biases about the issue (from ancient mythology for example) but rather with actual knowledge of the facts of the situation will naturally be against the breaking of international law. Just a thought... 

[Spike 12,049]

3 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Well this thread went full crazy on this last page!  Thanks for the reminder though of the devastating lunacy of Christian extremism...

 

Regarding the UN resolution, the funny part is that it's actually more pro-Israel than pro Palestinian. The resolution condemns both the settlements as well as the Palestinian resistance. It basically equates occupation with the resistance to it. The resolution doesn't propose a punishment if/when Israel continues to build the settlements that break international law, it's own treaties and sometimes even its own laws! It's basically just saying

- "hey, maybe you should try to abide by international law and stop down that which literally all the countries on earth say is illegal!"

- "You  fucking antisemite!"

 

Regarding Obama, I despise his guts, he gets away with murder (literally) because of his "charisma" but the actual criticism he gets is just mind boggling and his relation with Israel is prime example. This resolution was the first one that the UN has passed on Israel-Palestine for 8 years. 8 years because the Obama administration has been blocking every resolution on Israel-Palestine in the UN for 8 years against official US policy. An almost identical resolution has passed in the UN under every single US president since the 70s, but of course it is the president who gave Israel 38 billion dollars, more than anything any country has ever received in history, gets criticized as 'anti-Israel'  No US president in history has EVER been more pro-Israel than Obama. Even before he became president, in his time as senator, he only ever wrote a a single bill: during the Israeli assault on Lebanon in 2006 he wrote a bill to emergency rearm Israel so they can continue their indiscriminate bombings and war crimes.

Obama is a freak of nature. His charisma has created a personality cult that would actively support a third term. People absolve him of transgressions that would leave past presidents and the incumbent crucified in a public square. One bill written, one hundred and thirty-seven sponsored and three passed. Two hundred and sixty Executive Orders and the chutzpah to lecture the incumbent on not using EOs. Ay, ay, ay, the hypocrisy and the imperviousness to mainstream criticism is mind boggling. No politician or party should be trusted let alone admired like Obama is.

[Fernando 6,374]

5 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Yeah, sure, every single nation on earth is biased against Israel...

OR MAYBE, just maybe, anyone who doesn't have irrational biases about the issue (from ancient mythology for example) but rather with actual knowledge of the facts of the situation will naturally be against the breaking of international law. Just a thought... 

Well according to this guy on November 29, 1947 the Jews accepted a resolution to create a two state solution but the Arabs did not accept as they wanted everything......

 

 

 

Not only that, but he also said that as to the two state solution the Palestinian want one state pure Arabic, and the other mix......Seriously what kind of shenanigans is that? 

Palestine only Arabic allowed, but Israel can't be Jewish only but mix....

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,730]

58 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Well according to this guy on November 29, 1947 the Jews accepted a resolution to create a two state solution but the Arabs did not accept as they wanted everything......

 

 

 

Not only that, but he also said that as to the two state solution the Palestinian want one state pure Arabic, and the other mix......Seriously what kind of shenanigans is that? 

Palestine only Arabic allowed, but Israel can't be Jewish only but mix....

To be fair in Retrospect the Palestinians should have took the deal, but you cant blame them for taking the the gamble. The entire Arab world was supposed to be going up against little old Israel. I think everybody in 1948 would have bet on the Arab Nations winning.

[Fernando 6,374]

8 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

To be fair in Retrospect the Palestinians should have took the deal, but you cant blame them for taking the the gamble. The entire Arab world was supposed to be going up against little old Israel. I think everybody in 1948 would have bet on the Arab Nations winning.

And this proves my point. No deal that you do will it ever sufficed. The Arabic world hate Israel and the only world they want is one with no Israel in it. 

And let's not forget that they are a hard people to deal with. 

I mean look at Europe taking in immigrants from that side of the world, the Muslim religion is one of war. 

It's not like your taking jews refuges and they are driving trucks into a crowded area because of Allah..... 

Nothing will ever suffice with these people.