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The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

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14 minutes ago, Rmpr said:

Typical bs overreaction after a loss. Why everyone blames "the players not playing for the manager" after every single football failure?

I guess its easier to label it like that instead of trying to understand the actual tactics and football reasons to why something isnt working...

The tactics are not working because few players are not playing to the required intensity.. Anyway I doubt simeone stays after this season

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Simeone has taken Atleti as far as he can. Guess he'll be off to Italy next.

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I didn't get to watch the match.

I don't think Monaco would have a chance against Real, especially if Ronaldo is playing like this. I don't know if Juventus would either but it's at least a better chance. 

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6 hours ago, kmk108 said:

I didn't get to watch the match.

I don't think Monaco would have a chance against Real, especially if Ronaldo is playing like this. I don't know if Juventus would either but it's at least a better chance. 

I like Monaco, but I doubt they have what it takes to stop Real Madrid. They are a young and inexperienced, but zealous team with no real ability to defend, while Real are playing some extraterrestrial stuff at times. Juventus would be a better match to them in the final, of that I am pretty sure. And in order to stop Real from winning it again, I'd rather Juventus made it through and went all the way.

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13 hours ago, FabHazard said:

The tactics are not working because few players are not playing to the required intensity.. Anyway I doubt simeone stays after this season

Nope, tactics didnt work because the game plan was piss poor. This notion that a team can only lose because the players arent giving their all is absolutely stupid. If you google the amount of km ran or tackle attempts from Atleti, you will see it being the same as their previous wins. The difference is their midfield was dominated by Modric - Casemiro - Kroos. It has nothing to do with intensity!

Of course there are times where the problem is lack of desire or dissatisfaction (like us with Jose), but more often than not the problem revolves around footballing reasons rather than "the players arent giving 100%"...

P.S: this is not a dig at you man, its just an overall hatred because this excuse gets thrown in a lot and it makes me mad lol

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yeah, those atletico players couldnt be arsed with a champions league final :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, Rmpr said:

Nope, tactics didnt work because the game plan was piss poor. This notion that a team can only lose because the players arent giving their all is absolutely stupid. If you google the amount of km ran or tackle attempts from Atleti, you will see it being the same as their previous wins. The difference is their midfield was dominated by Modric - Casemiro - Kroos. It has nothing to do with intensity!

Of course there are times where the problem is lack of desire or dissatisfaction (like us with Jose), but more often than not the problem revolves around footballing reasons rather than "the players arent giving 100%"...

P.S: this is not a dig at you man, its just an overall hatred because this excuse gets thrown in a lot and it makes me mad lol

There are problems like juanfran not being available and koke playing in wide position....This atletico team is clearly inferior to its previous sides which were playing same tactics and those teams defeated Real madrid..so i doubt tactics are the problem...Yesterday while watching the match some players were clearly not up to the intensity of previous atletico sides

I agree that their midfield was dominated by real

 

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2 minutes ago, DYC. said:

Bakayoko messed up big time there. So painful.

Dani Alves is a great.

I've now seen Bakayoko play three times this season in the CL and he's been average or poor in each one. 

Not really sure he's the Matic replacement we need at all. I was excited about the thought a couple of months ago but not so much now. We need a polished midfield general who's super comfortable on the ball and great passing it.

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Just now, Pizy said:

I've now seen Bakayoko play three times this season in the CL and he's been average or poor in each one. 

Not really sure he's the Matic replacement we need at all. I was excited about the thought a couple of months ago but not so much now. We need a polished midfield general who's super comfortable on the ball and great passing it.

Sounds great, yeah. Hard to find. Even harder to sign.

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8 minutes ago, DYC. said:

Sounds great, yeah. Hard to find. Even harder to sign.

True. We have enough strength, steel, and industry in our midfield with Kante and Matic. We need essentially a prime Fabregas or Kroos type this summer who can break down teams and control the tempo.

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23 hours ago, FabHazard said:

End of an era for simeone.....Embarrassing performance by Atletico.....the players are not running for him anymore.....We would have beaten this atletico side..

Cannot believe they reached semifinals..They look so poor

Real Madrid are a great side though, they are likely to repeat as CL winner. And that would be the first time that has every happened. The quality of the opponent should not be forgotten. 

Atletico are a good side, not the best under Simeone but i seriously doubt we would beat this team. Alti are not the same pressing team they were in the past, they have actually changed a bit they are much more attacking then previously. The emphasis on pressing is not the same, and that might be due to personals and the fact it is just extremely hard to play the way they have done years after years. Simeone Alti at their prime were the best pressing team i have ever seen.

Still a great achievement for them. But i wonder if it is time for him to go elsewhere because i can't seem them competing with Barca and Real any time soon. 

 

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just as i expected, Monaco couldnt break this Juventus side, reaching the semis was a big bonus, its as far as they will get, of course there is still the 2nd leg, but Juventus are on a mission, they have one foot in the final, deserved winners today, Monaco has a bright future ahead of them, they have to focus on the league now, i really hope Juventus wins the cup, i cant stand Real Madrid and their arrogance. Cheers

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

I've now seen Bakayoko play three times this season in the CL and he's been average or poor in each one. 

Not really sure he's the Matic replacement we need at all. I was excited about the thought a couple of months ago but not so much now. We need a polished midfield general who's super comfortable on the ball and great passing it.

If we get Kroos type of player, you do know what will happen tho? 

Kante will no longer be our b2b, but our holding DM, which limits his abilities. Also, we will be weaker in defense, because we already lack steel even with Matic. 

Sure idealy, with Kroos type of player and better wingbacks, we would eventualy try to dominate more and we wouldnt need as many bodies in defence, but hell our team will never dominate, its just not in our DNA.

I like idea about ballplaying CM, but in that case we would need to switch to 3:5:2.

 

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8 hours ago, FabHazard said:

There are problems like juanfran not being available and koke playing in wide position....This atletico team is clearly inferior to its previous sides which were playing same tactics and those teams defeated Real madrid..so i doubt tactics are the problem...Yesterday while watching the match some players were clearly not up to the intensity of previous atletico sides

I agree that their midfield was dominated by real

 

Atletico was crap yesterday, but Real is playing brilliant in Champions league. They have complete team, creative, prime years, top fullbacks, good Gk, great defense, midfield and attack. Goals everywhere. I think only Juve can stop them because they are great in CL this year too.

If they dont win la liga this year, they wont win it in 10 years. They have all the ref help and barca is in worse state in ages. 

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15 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Turned off as soon as the Portuguese fairy scored. Hope Monaco stick it up Juve tonight but it's going to be tough.

You're an admin and calling people fairies? Cool.

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