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Tobey Gibson

14. Ruben Loftus-Cheek

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Well, if he's worthy of being in the first team, it definitely isn't as striker. He did maybe 1 or 2 things and then jogged around for the rest of the time.

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22 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

I think it makes more sense playing him as a CF if I'm honest. Physically it suits him, he doesn't have the technical ability or intelligence to control or dictate the game as a midfielder but he's quick, can take players on and makes good runs in to space. He can hold the ball up too with his frame. 

It would have made more sense to loan him out and get him some playing time. 

He's not going to improve on his weaknesses and/or develop as an all-round player if he's stuck as 3rd choice CF

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I'm starting to believe that he is that hyped mainly because of his physique. Not saying he does not possess certain qualities, I think he's got bags of potential, but his attitude is.. mehh...... He's never shown that hunger, that type of convincing performance to show that he wants to play ahead of Oscar or Matic or anyone in midfield. He just... played it safe always. Followed the instructions, tracked back and that's it. Nothing bad, but not great either. Average stuff. Such a shame because now (this season when Chelsea lacks quality midfielders) it was the perfect time for him to make a statement and impose himself. Next season might just be too late.

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11 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

It would have made more sense to loan him out and get him some playing time. 

He's not going to improve on his weaknesses and/or develop as an all-round player if he's stuck as 3rd choice CF

When do Chelsea ever get it right with young academy players though? 

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1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

When do Chelsea ever get it right with young academy players though? 

Most of the ones they got 'wrong' were creative/flair players who struggled with the physical aspect of the game (e.g. McEachran, Kakuta, Piazon etc)

They got it right with the likes of Bertrand, Van Aanholt and Bruma, even John Swift earned a move to the Championship. Christensen and Tammy Abraham could add to that list in the near future.

Just look at Loftus-Cheek and Dele Alli, two years ago, both of them were just hyped english youngsters, now the latter is playing regularly for a top-6 premier league team after proving himself in League 1/Championship over the course of 2-3 years. 

 

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1 hour ago, petre.ispirescu said:

I'm starting to believe that he is that hyped mainly because of his physique. Not saying he does not possess certain qualities, I think he's got bags of potential, but his attitude is.. mehh...... He's never shown that hunger, that type of convincing performance to show that he wants to play ahead of Oscar or Matic or anyone in midfield. He just... played it safe always. Followed the instructions, tracked back and that's it. Nothing bad, but not great either. Average stuff. Such a shame because now (this season when Chelsea lacks quality midfielders) it was the perfect time for him to make a statement and impose himself. Next season might just be too late.

I don't understand how you can give an academy graduate with only a few first team appearances 60k a week!

There are first team quality players in other premier league sides who barely earn 60k a week...

I bet his lack of hunger, attitude has something to do with his 'high wages'

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I just seriously don't understand what people see in Loftus-Cheek. Looks like another overhyped English young player. Would be a huge surprise if he somehow becomes a good player...

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When you probably don't even want to be a footballer, but you're forced into it before you're 10 years old (an age when passions should still be developing and found out naturally, not pushed on you) and are likely a millionaire by the time you're 20, you're far more focused on all the poon you're going to slay each weekend, all the places you're going to go and see etc. than you are focused on a game you don't care about. Which let's be clear about, he doesn't. If you care about anything, it is evident to onlookers. If you want to be a good football player, we can see it, even if you're shit. But he shows 0 signs of wanting to be here or on any football pitch. He can't believe he's getting game time and money for doing absolutely nothing.

But that's the parent's fault as well as his own fault. I'm sure there are far more of these young players that don't care about football in the least. It's a generational, & being spoiled thing.

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He's a CM. Conte needs to fire a rocket up his arse and tell him if he doesn't get a move on he can f*** off to the championship.

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2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Had a chance to shine, didn't, and I don't think he ever will to be honest.

 

 

Early days, trying to find his right position in this team ,like to find his running stats as he always looks like he ain't doing enough without the ball?

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When you probably don't even want to be a footballer, but you're forced into it before you're 10 years old (an age when passions should still be developing and found out naturally, not pushed on you) and are likely a millionaire by the time you're 20, you're far more focused on all the poon you're going to slay each weekend, all the places you're going to go and see etc. than you are focused on a game you don't care about. Which let's be clear about, he doesn't. If you care about anything, it is evident to onlookers. If you want to be a good football player, we can see it, even if you're shit. But he shows 0 signs of wanting to be here or on any football pitch. He can't believe he's getting game time and money for doing absolutely nothing.

But that's the parent's fault as well as his own fault. I'm sure there are far more of these young players that don't care about football in the least. It's a generational, & being spoiled thing.

Think You go a little to far with this. You dont know his parents nor You dont know how his childhood looked like. But he has no desire to shine - I can agree with You on that, mate

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9 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

I don't understand how you can give an academy graduate with only a few first team appearances 60k a week!

There are first team quality players in other premier league sides who barely earn 60k a week...

I bet his lack of hunger, attitude has something to do with his 'high wages'

Suddenly Solanke comes to mind. His father holding on for 50k a week is too much. Unbelievable talent, definitely one of the three best centre forward top prospects in England alongside Rashford and Tammy Abraham. But ready to spend this season playing for the youth Chelsea teams because he does not want to sign the extension. Such a shame. After a season in which he played regulary in a very good league, now he goes back to youth level.

Solanke has everything to become a great centre forward - the looks, the physique, the CF instincts, great goalscoring ratio for a youth player. Everything. 

Everytime I had watched him I got that feeling that he is tailor made to be a CF. With other players you get the feeling that they could play CF, on the wing, maybe as attacking midfielders as well. But Solanke looks like the type of pure CF. 

But at this point I think Tammy Abraham is way ahead of Solanke in terms of development. And definitely ranked higher than Solanke within the Chelsea hierarchy.

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38 minutes ago, Cripen said:

Think You go a little to far with this. You dont know his parents nor You dont know how his childhood looked like. But he has no desire to shine - I can agree with You on that, mate emoji6.png

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I know his childhood and 90%+ of footballer's childhoods involved loads of encouragement or natural desire to be a footballer, otherwise, how else would they become one? And if it was from sheer natural desire that they've made it through the youth ranks all the way to the senior level, they'd show blood/sweat/tears etc. But RLC shows none of that, so how did he become a footballer? Why? I doubt it was an accident. I don't doubt it was outside pressure. 

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I really can't see us using the lad. Hes not good enough to make the team no matter what position he plays.

Our problem is hes been pushed thru as the academys blue eyed boy and has been hyped to fuck. So I cant see him being loaned out or not thrown a game now n then as we would look like we lost. Plus the wage rise would anyone want to pay it for him? We have many more youth better than him yet the pressure is on us about him.

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I think he could be one of those late bloomers starting at age 25 and on...

He is probably best for #8 in 433 and those players need experience. 

But theres the thing .RLC has physique and technique, but lacks motivation. If Conte keeps him in our ranks, gives him decent amount of chances and moulds him like Pogba, then maybe he can make it here. Like Roberto at barca.

He is obviously overhyped, but there is still a chance for him. 

But if we wont give him playtime, better sell him with clause.

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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-transfer-news-blues-consider-ruben-loftuscheek-january-loan-exit-to-improve-development-a3398211.html%3famp

Rumoured to be loaned out in January transfer window I think it would be a good idea the kid isn't getting game time maybe a loan deal will improve his development 

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