Romelu Lukaku

[didierforever 7,349]

Feck me some of you are over-reacting just a little bit, let's not forget he is 20 years old, he is going to be a great player for us i have no doubt about that, just not yet.

Lukaku is in a similar position to what RVP was in 2004, very talented young player who has a great future, but he just isn't ready to be #1 at a club with design's on winning the title.

at this moment he is our no.1 striker. end of the story. what has it got to do with if he is ready or not. he is our best option, so play him, start him and use him.

whats the point of playing long balls to schurlle upfront against vidic and ferdinand, that was one bad tactical decision from jose yesterday.

[Tomo 21,681]

at this moment he is our no.1 striker. end of the story. what has it got to do with if he is ready or not. he is our best option, so play him, start him and use him.

whats the point of playing long balls to schurlle upfront against vidic and ferdinand, that was one bad tactical decision from jose yesterday.

That's probably why Jose is looking for a new forward. Lukaku wasn't even undisputed number 1 at West Brom last season so giving him that too soon here is asking for trouble. Making him number 1 forward we are practically pining our hopes for this season on him, is it fair to ask that off a 20 year old? I for one am happy for him to be part of the squad for the next 2/3 year and develop at his own pace.

[bushman 2,043]

Lukaku should develop his own pace ? By sitting on the bench, it´s almost impossible unless he starts jogging around.

[John1611 77]

Not the kind of striker Jose needs for the team he has in mind. I see Lukaku getting few games in the season, other than FA Cups and League Cups. Etoo will lead the way, with Torres as a sub.

If you're going to play long balls against United with the frequency that we did yesterday, surely Lukaku would have fit in our game plan miles better than Shurrle did?

[didierforever 7,349]

That's probably why Jose is looking for a new forward. Lukaku wasn't even undisputed number 1 at West Brom last season so giving him that too soon here is asking for trouble. Making him number 1 forward we are practically pining our hopes for this season on him, is it fair to ask that off a 20 year old? I for one am happy for him to be part of the squad for the next 2/3 year and develop at his own pace.

so just because we should not pin any hopes on him or put him under any pressure, we leave him out of a match against man united and knowing no one would be able to play better than him. how does that make any sense?

yes, we are looking for a new striker because we know lukaku's limitations, but unless we get that mr. X, lukaku should be treated as the no.1 striker.

[bushman 2,043]

so just because we should not pin any hopes on him or put him under any pressure, we leave him out of a match against man united and knowing no one would be able to play better than him. how does that make any sense?

yes, we are looking for a new striker because we know lukaku's limitations, but unless we get that mr. X, lukaku should be treated as the no.1 striker.

OK now you say Jose should have....but did not. Then why play defensive game as you were so happy about the result this morning ?

[HillWBA 77]

We'll take good care of him again if you arent going to use him!!

The lad is awesome, he was a little inconsistent with us at the start of last year but grew into the environment and by the end he was a monster, Sunderland away in particular he was the best player on the pitch by a mile (you all know about the ManUtd hattrick, in which he bullied Rio when he came on). Unfortunately for us i cannot see him coming back unless Jose signs probably two new strikers and keeps Ba/Torress.

Good luck for the season, backing you guys to win the title

[didierforever 7,349]

OK now you say Jose should have....but did not. Then why play defensive game as you were so happy about the result this morning ?

i said jose got his tactics right, does not mean everything he did was perfect in the game. lukaku would have suited us better in the way we played, definitely better than schurlle, but that one thing does not change the whole dynamic.

here is what i wrote in the post match http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/16665-man-united-chelsea/page-14

good result, brilliant tactics, poor team selection and and awful match.

cant understand why people are crying over the game. united are unsure of themselves and today could have been a make or break day for them. jose did the right thing by making united take the onus and take the bait rather than going all guns blazing. united's next match is POOL away and 2 weeks later city away. if they had won today, it would have gone a long long way in calming their nerves.

while jose's tactics were good, his team selection was poor. there is no point of playing rambo if you are not going to use his running. rambo played a very mikel game, barely out of our own half and just for winning the ball back/marking rooney. mikel would and should have been a better choice. lukaku should have started as a striker. with cech pinting the ball from the goalkicks, there was no way schurrle was beating vidic to it. lukaku would have been a much much greater threat.

here is my player analysis -

cech - good game. dint put a foot wrong and barely had anything to do. the rooney stop was brillaint. 8/10

ivanovic - solid. dint let evra/welbeck run behind him and also covered the cbs well. 7/10

cahill - good performance. but again instead of putting tackles, he prefers putting in blocks (rooney just at the edge of box). will cost us big. 7/10

JT - WALL. what a performance. brilliant in the air. dint let rvp turn if he received the ball with his back to the goal. simply flawless performance. 10/10

cole - good performance. covered hazard really well. dint let valencia cross the ball rather play it back to jones. tried to do something in the attack (unlike iva) but could not

make a difference. 7.5/10

ramires - this has to be one of his worst performances in the chelsea blue. dont think any of his forward passes were correct in the 1st half. let rooney run the game easily. missed marking late runs on a number of occasions and even let people run around him instead of putting a tackle. very unlike RAMBO. 4/10

lampard - slow on the ball. got closed down by cleverly on a number of occasions. dint do much for the attack but was much better defensively than rambo. 6/10

hazard - what is wrong with this guy. among every1 who was been a part of the team in this season's 3 matches, he has definitely had the worst start to this season. valencia OWNED him. the number of times he lost the ball to a valencia tackle was simply countless. the only time he got into the game was in the last 15 minutes when valencia got subbed. very poor decision making too, when choosing to single-handedly taken on jones and valencia rather than pass the ball. 5/10

oscar - good game. man-marked carrick out of the game. had to play cam as well as a deep lying playmaker. could have done more in some of the counters we had. without our best attacking player on the pitch. 7/10

kdb - simply could not assert himself. covered evra's runs very well. was good defensively but gave nothing in our attacks. also playing him on the wings is equivalent to playing mata on the wings. there is no width. 6/10

schurrle - he might not have won any headers, or taken any shot on the goal, or even provided any threat but his workrate is commendable. full of running and closing down, be it on the wing or as a striker. provided some width to us deep in the 2nd half which sometimes did stretch united but simply could not take on evra twice. good performance overall. 7/10

torres - started well, with his run but then lost the ball, many times. his performance was characterised by the last move of the day for us when he mind bogglingly chose to cut in and try to pass in the center at 92 minuted 20 seconds rather than just pass the ball to iva who could have crossed in or got a corner or something. his loosing the ball and then not even trying the fall back for the last move of the game, should tell us exactly of his comitement to the team. he is past it, the sooner we accept it, the better. 5/10

mikel,azpilicueta - not enough time to write about.

[bushman 2,043]

i said jose got his tactics right, does not mean everything he did was perfect in the game. lukaku would have suited us better in the way we played, definitely better than schurlle, but that one thing does not change the whole dynamic.

here is what i wrote in the post match http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/16665-man-united-chelsea/page-14

good result, brilliant tactics, poor team selection and and awful match.

cant understand why people are crying over the game. united are unsure of themselves and today could have been a make or break day for them. jose did the right thing by making united take the onus and take the bait rather than going all guns blazing. united's next match is POOL away and 2 weeks later city away. if they had won today, it would have gone a long long way in calming their nerves.

while jose's tactics were good, his team selection was poor. there is no point of playing rambo if you are not going to use his running. rambo played a very mikel game, barely out of our own half and just for winning the ball back/marking rooney. mikel would and should have been a better choice. lukaku should have started as a striker. with cech pinting the ball from the goalkicks, there was no way schurrle was beating vidic to it. lukaku would have been a much much greater threat.

here is my player analysis -

cech - good game. dint put a foot wrong and barely had anything to do. the rooney stop was brillaint. 8/10

ivanovic - solid. dint let evra/welbeck run behind him and also covered the cbs well. 7/10

cahill - good performance. but again instead of putting tackles, he prefers putting in blocks (rooney just at the edge of box). will cost us big. 7/10

JT - WALL. what a performance. brilliant in the air. dint let rvp turn if he received the ball with his back to the goal. simply flawless performance. 10/10

cole - good performance. covered hazard really well. dint let valencia cross the ball rather play it back to jones. tried to do something in the attack (unlike iva) but could not

make a difference. 7.5/10

ramires - this has to be one of his worst performances in the chelsea blue. dont think any of his forward passes were correct in the 1st half. let rooney run the game easily. missed marking late runs on a number of occasions and even let people run around him instead of putting a tackle. very unlike RAMBO. 4/10

lampard - slow on the ball. got closed down by cleverly on a number of occasions. dint do much for the attack but was much better defensively than rambo. 6/10

hazard - what is wrong with this guy. among every1 who was been a part of the team in this season's 3 matches, he has definitely had the worst start to this season. valencia OWNED him. the number of times he lost the ball to a valencia tackle was simply countless. the only time he got into the game was in the last 15 minutes when valencia got subbed. very poor decision making too, when choosing to single-handedly taken on jones and valencia rather than pass the ball. 5/10

oscar - good game. man-marked carrick out of the game. had to play cam as well as a deep lying playmaker. could have done more in some of the counters we had. without our best attacking player on the pitch. 7/10

kdb - simply could not assert himself. covered evra's runs very well. was good defensively but gave nothing in our attacks. also playing him on the wings is equivalent to playing mata on the wings. there is no width. 6/10

schurrle - he might not have won any headers, or taken any shot on the goal, or even provided any threat but his workrate is commendable. full of running and closing down, be it on the wing or as a striker. provided some width to us deep in the 2nd half which sometimes did stretch united but simply could not take on evra twice. good performance overall. 7/10

torres - started well, with his run but then lost the ball, many times. his performance was characterised by the last move of the day for us when he mind bogglingly chose to cut in and try to pass in the center at 92 minuted 20 seconds rather than just pass the ball to iva who could have crossed in or got a corner or something. his loosing the ball and then not even trying the fall back for the last move of the game, should tell us exactly of his comitement to the team. he is past it, the sooner we accept it, the better. 5/10

mikel,azpilicueta - not enough time to write about.

Oh no, not again. So much written.. I might be here till midnight just to read it though.

To play for the draw was Jose´s aim, I feel. However, 20 minutes before the end Chelsea were coming on. Play Mata, Lukaku to steal the game.

[didierforever 7,349]

Oh no, not again. So much written.. I might be here till midnight just to read it though.

To play for the draw was Jose´s aim, I feel. However, 20 minutes before the end Chelsea were coming on. Play Mata, Lukaku to steal the game.

hahahaha... lukaku, yes but mata no. i agree with what jose said in his post - match press conference.

[bushman 2,043]

hahahaha... lukaku, yes but mata no. i agree with what jose said in his post - match press conference.

If I remember correctly, Mata popped one around 86th minute, in the last game, didn´t he ?

Anyway, enough was said today. Basically, I am happy with the draw but not with the tactics. Thanks for your chatting. You are a fine poster & not rude as some of these bimbos.

[Stingray 9,441]

not rude as some of these bimbos.

I would love more bimbos here, mate ....

* Bimbo is a derogatory slang term that typically describes an attractive but unintelligent female and as an extension to the "dumb blonde" stereotype.

[didierforever 7,349]

If I remember correctly, Mata popped one around 86th minute, in the last game, didn´t he ?

Anyway, enough was said today. Basically, I am happy with the draw but not with the tactics. Thanks for your chatting. You are a fine poster & not rude as some of these bimbos.

that game and this game were very different. last season we were the aggressors, we needed that win to get CL. today we were trying to shut the shop. very different scenario.

thank you for the compliment,

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

i said jose got his tactics right, does not mean everything he did was perfect in the game. lukaku would have suited us better in the way we played, definitely better than schurlle, but that one thing does not change the whole dynamic.

here is what i wrote in the post match http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/16665-man-united-chelsea/page-14

good result, brilliant tactics, poor team selection and and awful match.

cant understand why people are crying over the game. united are unsure of themselves and today could have been a make or break day for them. jose did the right thing by making united take the onus and take the bait rather than going all guns blazing. united's next match is POOL away and 2 weeks later city away. if they had won today, it would have gone a long long way in calming their nerves.

while jose's tactics were good, his team selection was poor. there is no point of playing rambo if you are not going to use his running. rambo played a very mikel game, barely out of our own half and just for winning the ball back/marking rooney. mikel would and should have been a better choice. lukaku should have started as a striker. with cech pinting the ball from the goalkicks, there was no way schurrle was beating vidic to it. lukaku would have been a much much greater threat.

here is my player analysis -

cech - good game. dint put a foot wrong and barely had anything to do. the rooney stop was brillaint. 8/10

ivanovic - solid. dint let evra/welbeck run behind him and also covered the cbs well. 7/10

cahill - good performance. but again instead of putting tackles, he prefers putting in blocks (rooney just at the edge of box). will cost us big. 7/10

JT - WALL. what a performance. brilliant in the air. dint let rvp turn if he received the ball with his back to the goal. simply flawless performance. 10/10

cole - good performance. covered hazard really well. dint let valencia cross the ball rather play it back to jones. tried to do something in the attack (unlike iva) but could not

make a difference. 7.5/10

ramires - this has to be one of his worst performances in the chelsea blue. dont think any of his forward passes were correct in the 1st half. let rooney run the game easily. missed marking late runs on a number of occasions and even let people run around him instead of putting a tackle. very unlike RAMBO. 4/10

lampard - slow on the ball. got closed down by cleverly on a number of occasions. dint do much for the attack but was much better defensively than rambo. 6/10

hazard - what is wrong with this guy. among every1 who was been a part of the team in this season's 3 matches, he has definitely had the worst start to this season. valencia OWNED him. the number of times he lost the ball to a valencia tackle was simply countless. the only time he got into the game was in the last 15 minutes when valencia got subbed. very poor decision making too, when choosing to single-handedly taken on jones and valencia rather than pass the ball. 5/10

oscar - good game. man-marked carrick out of the game. had to play cam as well as a deep lying playmaker. could have done more in some of the counters we had. without our best attacking player on the pitch. 7/10

kdb - simply could not assert himself. covered evra's runs very well. was good defensively but gave nothing in our attacks. also playing him on the wings is equivalent to playing mata on the wings. there is no width. 6/10

schurrle - he might not have won any headers, or taken any shot on the goal, or even provided any threat but his workrate is commendable. full of running and closing down, be it on the wing or as a striker. provided some width to us deep in the 2nd half which sometimes did stretch united but simply could not take on evra twice. good performance overall. 7/10

torres - started well, with his run but then lost the ball, many times. his performance was characterised by the last move of the day for us when he mind bogglingly chose to cut in and try to pass in the center at 92 minuted 20 seconds rather than just pass the ball to iva who could have crossed in or got a corner or something. his loosing the ball and then not even trying the fall back for the last move of the game, should tell us exactly of his comitement to the team. he is past it, the sooner we accept it, the better. 5/10

mikel,azpilicueta - not enough time to write about.

Hazard was better than 5

[didierforever 7,349]

Hazard was better than 5

maybe its my expectation out of him, but i expected him to be a lot lot better than he was yesterday. defensively he was okay but he did leave cole open a couple of times. in attack, i feel he was poor, no other word to describe him yesterday.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

maybe its my expectation out of him, but i expected him to be a lot lot better than he was yesterday. defensively he was okay but he did leave cole open a couple of times. in attack, i feel he was poor, no other word to describe him yesterday.

If you are going to rate him at 5, Lampard's, Torres' and de Bruyne's rating should be lowered. That's my opinion.

[jonaaibosk 191]

Playing Torres is a criminal offense - whether Jose sees Nando or doesn't see Nando doesn't make a difference because Nando is Championship level striker that brings smiles to opposition defenders when warming up or coming onto the field.

Lukaku scored a bloody hat trick against United just a few months ago and we bring on a player who in the previous 8 months managed 1 goal in the League so he can lose possession; pass the ball to the opposition and look disinterested in the middle of the field while our players are crossing into the box.

The only logical reason to bring on Torres is to show Roman how crap he is so Jose is given money for the big name striker he seems to want.

I stopped reading at this point

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

I stopped reading at this point

I don't know why.. He has been been mid-lower table quality