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OneMoSalah

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  1. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Stats in Sevilla - Chelsea   
    He actually done brilliantly well when pressurized by Sevilla's press for Giroud's second. Was excellent footwork which led to the goal. 
    Brilliant all round team performance and delighted for Giroud. Tammy was definitely set to start on Saturday, even if Giroud scored one but now Giroud put on that display, almost a certainty he will start on Saturday. Good thing also is most of our usual 11 got a very good rest. Was hoping he wouldn't bring on Werner at all but at least the team against Leeds will be completely fresh and Krasnador next week, the team can be rotated fully again and we can see Gilmour starting. Brilliant man management from Frank.
  2. Johnnyeye liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in 19. Mason Mount   
    Actually if you look at the stats, when Frank was 22 right before we got him he had only scored 40 club goals. Mason is 21 and has 6 less in his career. I know you mean more the taking shots/technical side of it and maybe the power at times could be more but his goal record isn’t that bad so far in his career. The growth has to be there in terms of frequency of his goals and assists as we seen the barren run he had last year but also comparing any young English midfielder to Lampard, Gerrard or Scholes in regards to shooting is a tough one because those 3 were top of the range in terms of shooting from long range and two of them were two of the best goal scoring midfielders of their generation. 
  3. Vesper liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in Eduardo Camavinga   
    Personally think he should stay at Rennes to he is 21. Get close to or over 100 games under his belt. A wise move would he for whoever signs him to loan him back to Rennes so he can keep playing at a competitive enough level every week as they obviously see him as a player to build around. He is undoubtedly a huge talent and will make it to the top but think going to a United or a Madrid where he might be in and out the 11 at 19 or 20 could go against him, more so Madrid look at Kovacic, look at Jovic... in and out the 11 and they were more senior players and further along than he is. Although PSG could be an excellent move I think because him being a French NT player and also being a very good Ligue 1 player, he would continue to play with Tuchel and get the CL exposure most seasons as well as play alongside some top players in MF such as Verratti, Di Maria plus throw in Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi also.
  4. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Atomiswave in 19. Mason Mount   
    He is fucking quality from where im sitting, he has long passed the eye test for me. Dude is 21 what do you want? Let him develop as he is and you will see his true potential soon enough. So far im more than pleased.
  5. Johnnyeye liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in 19. Mason Mount   
    Actually if you look at the stats, when Frank was 22 right before we got him he had only scored 40 club goals. Mason is 21 and has 6 less in his career. I know you mean more the taking shots/technical side of it and maybe the power at times could be more but his goal record isn’t that bad so far in his career. The growth has to be there in terms of frequency of his goals and assists as we seen the barren run he had last year but also comparing any young English midfielder to Lampard, Gerrard or Scholes in regards to shooting is a tough one because those 3 were top of the range in terms of shooting from long range and two of them were two of the best goal scoring midfielders of their generation. 
  6. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by MoroccanBlue in 19. Mason Mount   
    I thought Mount was one of our better players actually 
  7. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Beigl in Chelsea 0-0 Spurs   
    I feel like we could have won the game in the second half, but we have to be happy with the development of the team in the last few months. We are very secure at the back, our midfield options are good and our attack is decent, even though I think we need 2-3 more months to click upfront. I think we can push for place two with 82+ points this season, which would be a very good output.
  8. ZAPHOD2319 liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in Chelsea 0-0 Spurs   
    Throw in Ndombele as well who has been a different player this season. I think he has found something he didn't have last season, confidence. Someone who I really liked the look of at Lyon and is now starting to show what he is about. I know he has only got 1 goal and 1 assist this season which looks poor but he has just got quality on the ball. He can dribble, he can pass, he can tackle. Also while Bale hasn't hit the ground running, if he plays, Chilwell has to be very wary of him coming off that right hand channel because he can shoot well whenever he gets within 25-30 yards from the goal. I think this will be our toughest match of the season by far, as you said Son and Kane give them so much in attack. Defensively they have improved hugely, guys like Eric Dier has come on a lot and even Doherty looks a solid addition. Ndombele and Regulion have looked good so far also as has Hojberg in midfield. Definitely be our toughest game so far this season. We have improved also but the two victories last season, I think using them as a barometer as to how this game will go as opposed to taking in and looking at how convincingly Spurs beat United and then City in that second half, would be naïve. It should be a good game and getting a win in this one would maybe indicate whether or not this team is ready to make that step to go from top 4 finishers to competing for the title. 
    Its true though. You see it on here Mount all season getting some sort of abuse despite playing very well at times. There was someone saying his performance v Burnley was average when he was outstanding and arguably put in the best individual performance of the season for us that game. I said regarding Werner also, I think some people just like to shoot down our players even when they are playing well because they tend to overanalyse like one or 2 5-10 second sections of games as if that's all those guys did in the game or as if the game of football only lasts that duration. Werner misses a chance v Newcastle and everybody talks about that and not his assist or the multiple runs he made to get into good positions. Doesn't score v Rennes and its a disaster/needs rested/under confident/at an all time low some of the ones I've seen. Mount misplaces a pass or whatever and any sort of good aspect is forgotten. People need to wake up and realize people make mistakes or can perform averagely even if they are/were on a hot streak. 
  9. ZAPHOD2319 liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in Chelsea 0-0 Spurs   
    Throw in Ndombele as well who has been a different player this season. I think he has found something he didn't have last season, confidence. Someone who I really liked the look of at Lyon and is now starting to show what he is about. I know he has only got 1 goal and 1 assist this season which looks poor but he has just got quality on the ball. He can dribble, he can pass, he can tackle. Also while Bale hasn't hit the ground running, if he plays, Chilwell has to be very wary of him coming off that right hand channel because he can shoot well whenever he gets within 25-30 yards from the goal. I think this will be our toughest match of the season by far, as you said Son and Kane give them so much in attack. Defensively they have improved hugely, guys like Eric Dier has come on a lot and even Doherty looks a solid addition. Ndombele and Regulion have looked good so far also as has Hojberg in midfield. Definitely be our toughest game so far this season. We have improved also but the two victories last season, I think using them as a barometer as to how this game will go as opposed to taking in and looking at how convincingly Spurs beat United and then City in that second half, would be naïve. It should be a good game and getting a win in this one would maybe indicate whether or not this team is ready to make that step to go from top 4 finishers to competing for the title. 
    Its true though. You see it on here Mount all season getting some sort of abuse despite playing very well at times. There was someone saying his performance v Burnley was average when he was outstanding and arguably put in the best individual performance of the season for us that game. I said regarding Werner also, I think some people just like to shoot down our players even when they are playing well because they tend to overanalyse like one or 2 5-10 second sections of games as if that's all those guys did in the game or as if the game of football only lasts that duration. Werner misses a chance v Newcastle and everybody talks about that and not his assist or the multiple runs he made to get into good positions. Doesn't score v Rennes and its a disaster/needs rested/under confident/at an all time low some of the ones I've seen. Mount misplaces a pass or whatever and any sort of good aspect is forgotten. People need to wake up and realize people make mistakes or can perform averagely even if they are/were on a hot streak. 
  10. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jason in 19. Mason Mount   
     
  11. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jason in Chelsea 0-0 Spurs   
    We don't deserve nice things really when you see the overreaction to Werner. Better off going back to being shit. 
  12. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by OhForAGreavsie in 6. Thiago Silva   
    Agreed the decision has to be up to him and if he wants to play international football then that's his choice. It's just galling that he has to miss matches for us. There should be a happier marriage between club and international football. The key to that would be an ending of Blatter's international breaks allowing the club season to be uninterrupted and therefore to be completed at least seven or eight weeks more quickly than is the case now. That would leave room for an international 'season'. A season which would be more engaging and more enjoyable than what we have now.
    The fact that club seasons around the world do not run on the same timetable would be a difficulty but if there is a will there can be a way. 
  13. ZAPHOD2319 liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in Chelsea 0-0 Spurs   
    Throw in Ndombele as well who has been a different player this season. I think he has found something he didn't have last season, confidence. Someone who I really liked the look of at Lyon and is now starting to show what he is about. I know he has only got 1 goal and 1 assist this season which looks poor but he has just got quality on the ball. He can dribble, he can pass, he can tackle. Also while Bale hasn't hit the ground running, if he plays, Chilwell has to be very wary of him coming off that right hand channel because he can shoot well whenever he gets within 25-30 yards from the goal. I think this will be our toughest match of the season by far, as you said Son and Kane give them so much in attack. Defensively they have improved hugely, guys like Eric Dier has come on a lot and even Doherty looks a solid addition. Ndombele and Regulion have looked good so far also as has Hojberg in midfield. Definitely be our toughest game so far this season. We have improved also but the two victories last season, I think using them as a barometer as to how this game will go as opposed to taking in and looking at how convincingly Spurs beat United and then City in that second half, would be naïve. It should be a good game and getting a win in this one would maybe indicate whether or not this team is ready to make that step to go from top 4 finishers to competing for the title. 
    Its true though. You see it on here Mount all season getting some sort of abuse despite playing very well at times. There was someone saying his performance v Burnley was average when he was outstanding and arguably put in the best individual performance of the season for us that game. I said regarding Werner also, I think some people just like to shoot down our players even when they are playing well because they tend to overanalyse like one or 2 5-10 second sections of games as if that's all those guys did in the game or as if the game of football only lasts that duration. Werner misses a chance v Newcastle and everybody talks about that and not his assist or the multiple runs he made to get into good positions. Doesn't score v Rennes and its a disaster/needs rested/under confident/at an all time low some of the ones I've seen. Mount misplaces a pass or whatever and any sort of good aspect is forgotten. People need to wake up and realize people make mistakes or can perform averagely even if they are/were on a hot streak. 
  14. ZAPHOD2319 liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in Chelsea 0-0 Spurs   
    Throw in Ndombele as well who has been a different player this season. I think he has found something he didn't have last season, confidence. Someone who I really liked the look of at Lyon and is now starting to show what he is about. I know he has only got 1 goal and 1 assist this season which looks poor but he has just got quality on the ball. He can dribble, he can pass, he can tackle. Also while Bale hasn't hit the ground running, if he plays, Chilwell has to be very wary of him coming off that right hand channel because he can shoot well whenever he gets within 25-30 yards from the goal. I think this will be our toughest match of the season by far, as you said Son and Kane give them so much in attack. Defensively they have improved hugely, guys like Eric Dier has come on a lot and even Doherty looks a solid addition. Ndombele and Regulion have looked good so far also as has Hojberg in midfield. Definitely be our toughest game so far this season. We have improved also but the two victories last season, I think using them as a barometer as to how this game will go as opposed to taking in and looking at how convincingly Spurs beat United and then City in that second half, would be naïve. It should be a good game and getting a win in this one would maybe indicate whether or not this team is ready to make that step to go from top 4 finishers to competing for the title. 
    Its true though. You see it on here Mount all season getting some sort of abuse despite playing very well at times. There was someone saying his performance v Burnley was average when he was outstanding and arguably put in the best individual performance of the season for us that game. I said regarding Werner also, I think some people just like to shoot down our players even when they are playing well because they tend to overanalyse like one or 2 5-10 second sections of games as if that's all those guys did in the game or as if the game of football only lasts that duration. Werner misses a chance v Newcastle and everybody talks about that and not his assist or the multiple runs he made to get into good positions. Doesn't score v Rennes and its a disaster/needs rested/under confident/at an all time low some of the ones I've seen. Mount misplaces a pass or whatever and any sort of good aspect is forgotten. People need to wake up and realize people make mistakes or can perform averagely even if they are/were on a hot streak. 
  15. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jype in 11. Timo Werner   
    Werner has never been the most clinical of players. Last season in the Bundesliga he recorded 20 big chances missed, only second to Lewandowski at 24.
    That said, it comes with the territory. He's a player who gets in these chances constantly because he's a good player and even though he misses a lot of them he still finds himself on the score sheet really often as well. If you look at the stats from EPL last few seasons, you'll find players like Aubameyang, Vardy, Salah, Mane constantly topping the table of big chances missed statistics. Are they bad players as well? I think not.
    Sure he should've scored at least two or more goals in the games against Newcastle and Rennes but shit happens, so what? The team was still good enough to win both of those games despite Werner having an off-day with his finishing so what's the problem? I'll only start getting worried if Timo stops getting himself in these kind of goalscoring positions and wanders around the pitch like a lost lamb because only then there is a problem. Right now his overall play is looking good and more goals will come, it's only a matter of time.
    8 goals is a very decent return for this stage of the season, especially for a player who's only just joined a new club this season. To put things into perspective, if he keeps up the same scoring rate he'll end up with +25 goals overall in all competitions, which is something no Chelsea player has done in the last ten years.
    As for the "oh but he's scored three penalties" brigade I'll ask you who's the one who got those penalties? Timo has won four penalties so far I think, but Jorginho took the first few and missed some.
  16. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Milan in 11. Timo Werner   
    I am far more concerned what I am going to eat for dinner than Timo Werner.
  17. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jason in 11. Timo Werner   
    Werner is doing so much right already – the odd miss can be excused
    https://theathletic.com/2219400/2020/11/25/werner-chelsea-finishing/?source=emp_shared_article
    It took Timo Werner less than four minutes to find the back of the Rennes net. The only problem for Chelsea was that he didn’t take the ball with him.
    Hurdling goalkeeper Alfred Gomis and grabbing the netting with both hands, he bent over double in disbelief. Callum Hudson-Odoi’s low first-time cross from the right had been brilliant, verging on perfect, and yet Werner’s attempted tap-in had sent the ball arcing high into the stand behind the goal he ended up occupying.
    “Timo wants to score that but the ball’s bobbling as it comes along and I know myself that those finishes look a lot easier from afar than they always are,” head coach Frank Lampard said afterwards, taking the sympathetic line.
    Werner’s early miss didn’t prevent Chelsea from extending their winning streak to six games across all competitions. Nor did his late one; a scuffed shot from Hakim Ziyech’s pinpoint pass that Gomis deflected up into the air, leading directly to the towering Olivier Giroud headed winner that broke Rennes hearts. But both moments reinforced the notion there is still room to grow for a striker who has been largely as-advertised since arriving at Cobham as a hugely anticipated £52 million signing from RB Leipzig in July.
    “I think it’s just normal that a player of Timo’s quality and where he is that he’s going to get even better, because he’s a top-class player,” Lampard added. “I’ve been really happy with him since he’s got here. He’s feeling his team-mates and his team-mates are feeling him, hence he’s getting in positions to score in every game; so more goals will come, as a progression from that.”
    Eight goals — including three emphatic penalties — from his first 12 Chelsea appearances across all competitions was a particularly impressive return considering that, in addition to the usual challenges of adapting to a new team, league and style of play, he has also been shifted by Lampard from the central striking position he occupied on the Premier League’s opening weekend against Brighton & Hove Albion to a wide role on the left of a front three, working around and often in tandem with Tammy Abraham.
    Last night’s 2-1 win in Rennes was the second game in the space of three days in which Werner’s wastefulness in front of goal prevented Chelsea turning clear superiority into a comfortable win; against Newcastle United on Saturday, he skewed one shot wide from near the penalty spot after good work from Abraham, then underhit an attempted square pass to Ziyech rather than try to beat Karl Darlow himself after dispossessing Fabian Schar to go clean through on goal.
    But nothing in the overall numbers this season suggests Werner’s finishing has been a particular issue.
    In fact, his five goals from open play across all competitions constitute a slight overachievement when compared with his non-penalty expected goals (npxG) rating of 4.0. He also significantly outperformed his npxG ratings in each of his final two Bundesliga seasons at Leipzig, giving us a solid body of evidence to support his reputation as one of the most efficient high-volume goalscorers in Europe.
    Timo Werner's open-play goalscoring
    SEASON     MINUTES PLAYED      NON-PENALTY   GOALS    NPXG    2018-19 2509  16 14 2019-20 2795 28 20 2020-21 770 4 3.7 Werner’s final Bundesliga campaign with RB Leipzig set an incredibly high benchmark to emulate at Chelsea. He scored 28 goals — of which only three were penalties — in 34 appearances against an expected goals (xG) rating of 22.3. His 0.81 non-penalty goals per 90 minutes in 2019-20 was the sixth-highest average in Europe’s big five leagues and of the five strikers ahead of him, only Bayern Munich’s Robert Lewandowski played a comparably large number of total minutes.
    Europe's best open-play scorers 2019-20
    STRIKER    MINUTES PLAYED         NON-PENALTY GOALS         NON-PENALTY GOALS/90        NON-PENALTY XG90    Kylian Mbappe 1513 18 1.07 1.01 Robert Lewandowski 2759 29 0.95 0.77 Sergio Aguero 1452 14 0.87 0.73 Luis Muriel 1260 12 0.86 0.61 Mauro Icardi 1267 12 0.85 0.7 Timo Werner 2795 25 0.81 0.64 Josip Ilicic 1663 15 0.81 0.5 Duvan Zapata 2026 17 0.76 0.59 Andreas Cornelius 1494 12 0.72 0.43 Patrick Schick 1298 10 0.69 0.41 The early evidence suggests it’s a tall order to expect Werner to match that level of relentless goal threat from open play at Chelsea this season, and not through any fault of his own.
    He’s simply playing a different role under Lampard, operating slightly wider in a team who can count on two or three prominent attacking options at any one time. He is averaging 2.31 shot attempts per 90 minutes across all competitions so far, putting him behind colleagues Abraham (3), Christian Pulisic (2.86) and Ziyech (2.35). Last season, he unsurprisingly led the Leipzig squad with 3.78 shot attempts per 90 minutes.
    There’s plenty of time and potential for that to change, of course.
    Werner could be deployed as a central striker again if Lampard sees a particular tactical need for it, if Abraham’s form dips or if the injured Pulisic returns to make the starting spot on the left his own. As they continue to grow in confidence and comfort with this dynamic 4-3-3 system, it’s also very possible that Chelsea will exert more pressure on opponents than ever before, giving all their attacking players more frequent opportunities to threaten the goal.
    Werner has hit the ground running at Chelsea, and it’s easy to see why Lampard has come to consider him indispensable so quickly.
    Even when not in positions of immediate danger, he always commands the attention of defenders, creating space and possibilities for the likes of Abraham and Ziyech with his mere presence. Whenever he does spark into action, he looks a unique nightmare to come up against, blending the devastating speed of Mohamed Salah with the predatory instincts of Sergio Aguero.
    The fact that he has harnessed these gifts by the age of 24 should be even more frightening for Chelsea’s rivals. Werner has missed more of what Opta terms “big chances” (four) than he has scored (three) in the Premier League, yet he has already shown enough flashes to justify the formidable reputation he brought with him from Germany. It is hard to picture a scenario in which his finishing in key moments doesn’t improve with time and further experience.
    Lampard’s more immediate concern should be the risk of burning Werner out. He has played more minutes (1,224) across all competitions than any Chelsea player this season and started all but one of his new club’s 15 matches — including last month’s trip to Burnley, when he was initially named among the substitutes but got drafted into the starting XI when Pulisic injured a hamstring in the warm-up. That rest is unlikely to come at home to Tottenham Hotspur in Sunday’s third vs first London derby, but heavier rotation will be unavoidable in a packed, eight-game December.
    As long as Lampard can keep him fit and fresh, Werner will be a hugely valuable weapon for Chelsea — and the occasional jaw-dropping miss should only serve as a reminder of how much more there might be yet to come.
  18. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jason in 11. Timo Werner   
    With the way people have been going about Werner missing chances, you would think this isn't someone who has scored 132 goals and even provided about 60 assists in his career. Heck, he already has 14 goals and 4 assists for club and country this season!
    If Werner's passing, ability to retain the ball, first touch, finishing were so bad, he would not have been wanted by Hansi Flick, Klopp and even Guardiola and he wouldn't even be a fully fledged German international. 
    On paper, yeah, Werner doesn't look suitable against low blocks but people haven't really been watching him over the past year or so, if they believe that's the case. He improved that part of his game under Nagelsmann and is getting better on it. He didn't score 34 goals for Leipzig in all competitions by accident last season and not everyone played a high line against them either. 
    Think we can all agree that Werner needs a rest but the overreaction to his form because of the misses in the last 2 games has been . 
  19. Johnnyeye liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in Super Frank Thread   
    Tbf it seems a bit daft now because he had the offers to go to Rennes or Everton on loan and it didn't happen for whatever reason. Everton signed Ben Godfrey so won't come back for him and Rennes probably got another replacement. Fuck knows where hes going to go in January. He needs to play but again I still don't know who will sign him in the PL realistically. And a Championship loan would be a backwards step 100%. 
  20. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jason in 11. Timo Werner   
    No, you didn't. You said he needs a rest and then went on talking about him missing chances, being low on confidence etc. 
    If you had just said he needs a rest on Sunday, no one would have really replied to your posts.
  21. MoroccanBlue liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in 11. Timo Werner   
    Or overly critical. To be expected on here though Mount got it, Pulisic got some shit cause he was injured, now Werner getting it after 2 meh games. Some people will never be happy. 
  22. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jason in 11. Timo Werner   
    Like I said, you're being overly paranoid. 
  23. Stats liked a post in a topic by OneMoSalah in 11. Timo Werner   
    What? His confidence is clearly not at an all time low. If it was he wouldn't be making the same runs he's making or be shooting full stop.
    When strikers aren’t confident they stop getting onto the end of chances or stop shooting because they are scared of missing. Timo doesn’t look like that. He is allowed to have an off game or two.
    This notion you have that he is lost is crazy, he has either scored or assisted in 6 of his last 8 games for club and country. Something like 11 goal involvements in his last 8 games.
    Is that someone who is not confident? Or someone who is lost? To sound blunt - if that is lost or low confidence I would like some of whatever your drinking or smoking, I mean what do you want him to do score 3 goals every game and be MOTM every game of the season? He has 13 goals in 22 games this season for club and country. All in all that is good.
  24. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jason in 11. Timo Werner   
    Also, not sure how missing chances equate to being low on confidence, especially when it's been only 2 games. Do you know Werner personally to know that? Yes, it's frustrating to see Werner fluffed his lines in the last two games but at the same time and for example, he also went and created that second goal at Newcastle on the counter attack with the searing pace of his. Strikers, players etc miss chances. It happens and happens to even the best. As long as Werner continues to score more than he misses, I don't see why there should be a concern and I think his career numbers so far back that up. Would be more concerned if he wasn't getting at the end of chances or if he was shirking away after missing a chance. Rather than let it affect him, he usually just dusts himself off and go again, try to get at the of chances and score.
  25. OneMoSalah liked a post in a topic by Jason in 19. Mason Mount   
    Excellent defensive work and pass for the first goal. Even Fabregas was impressed!